Bane without Venom would probably beat Shang easily. I've read alot of Shang's material including MKF and HFH and I have no clue where people get the idea that he's some unbeatable fighting machine on par with Iron Fist, when he's only beaten C listers like Razer Fist, even Bucky was kicking his ass in Siege until he had to save some civilians
Shang and Elektra are objectively the most overrated martial artist. But given that a certain someone will wank the shit out of Marvel streets and downplay DC one's I honestly don't care. Which is why I stick to Forieng Cinema and rarely comic to the comic versus thread
Modern Razer Fist got a grand total of one kick on Bucky before Bucky started kicking his ass until he had to save that girl.
It doesn't matter anyway since you said they are two different Razer Fist. Bucky is a hell of alot more impressive than Shang is and I'd put Bucky around the same level as Bane since both are above Dick and below Bruce
Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
Bane without Venom would probably beat Shang easily. I've read alot of Shang's material including MKF and HFH and I have no clue where people get the idea that he's some unbeatable fighting machine on par with Iron Fist, when he's only beaten C listers like Razer Fist, even Bucky was kicking his ass in Siege until he had to save some civiliansShang and Elektra are objectively the most overrated martial artist. But given that a certain someone will wank the shit out of Marvel streets and downplay DC one's I honestly don't care. Which is why I stick to Forieng Cinema and rarely comic to the comic versus thread
I think his rep is mostly based off his fight with Spidey. But he has a few good bullet dodging feats to his name too..
And there was that one time him and Iron Fist were forced to fight, in Deadly Hands. They tried faking it, but the villain was genre savvy enough to call them on phoning it in, and threatened to kill his hostage if he even suspected they weren't serious about it.
Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
I'm not saying Shang is terrible or mediocre but this idea that he's on par with Iron Fist is pretty ridiculous., I wouldn't even put him on the same level as Cap and Black Panther
Well, maybe they used to be on par a long time ago, but considering Shang and Cat were 100% certain if they fought, they'd kill each other, and Danny managed to beat Cat......?
Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
He stomped the Cat, Cat won the first time because Danny was distracted, the next time he steamrolled Shen
I know, that's what I'm saying.
Shang Chi never beat Cat, and every time they came to blows, it was cut short because both fighters knew they were so evenly matched, they'd kill each other.
Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
Modern Razer Fist got a grand total of one kick on Bucky before Bucky started kicking his ass until he had to save that girl.It doesn't matter anyway since you said they are two different Razer Fist. Bucky is a hell of alot more impressive than Shang is and I'd put Bucky around the same level as Bane since both are above Dick and below Bruce
He also pinned him and stabbed his bionic arm... aaand deflected his bullet... on-panel commentary by Bucky also showed he wasn't a piece of cake.
Three different Razor Fists, to be precise 😛 Plus Doombots.
No, he's not.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWLet me know when Shang beats a fighter that isn't a complete C lister, he may be on Bucky's level then. Crossbones and Batroc are better than anyone Shang has ever beaten
He also pinned him and stabbed his bionic arm... aaand deflected his bullet... on-panel commentary by Bucky also showed he wasn't a piece of cake.Three different Razor Fists, to be precise 😛 Plus Doombots.
No, he's not.
Don't you just hate those shameless posters who post scans from before anyone on this board was born?
Shang Chi vs Iron Fist: 🙂
Pretty sure this is the only time they've ever faced off, and it's never been reprinted to my knowledge. Which is kind of a shame, given this is pretty historic, unique, and referenced in more mainstream comics then Deadly Hands of Kung Fu. (You can say the same for a lot of Iron Fists Deadly Hands stories as well, like the time he took on a hell lord, or went up against a "Touch of Death" practitioner)
Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
He stomped the Cat, Cat won the first time because Danny was distracted, the next time he steamrolled Shen
Amendment to my first comment: Danny steamrolled Cat. But he also needed to apply the Iron Fist to do it. (His hand is glowing for the palm heel strike in their second fight)
Even before the distraction in their first fight, Danny and Cat were seemed equals.
And in those scans I showed, Shang and Danny also seem equals, until the Iron Fist comes into play.