Goku/Kenshiro vs Ichigo/Yusuke

Started by TheTyrant3 pages

What author shows or states (canon) > fan calculations/interpretations (non-canon). My 'personal interpretations' are what I see and read on-panel, i.e. actual feats and statements. I may try to put 2 and 2 together to get a right or wrong understanding on a subject, but that's something else entirely. Pixel-scaling is only accepted on NF afaik.

What does the last part of your post mean?

Though if you want a serious reply?

Originally posted by TheTyrant
By statements or actual on-panel depictions only.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/129659/3499017-madara+mountain+bust+2.png

^ we can clearly see that the shockwaves from that swing can shred a mountain range. ButYusuku, nor anybody else in YYH, has anything remotely close to that level of power, as far as I recall.

Which chooses to go down the half assed route of going by appearances rather than actual feats, ignoring calcs, will get you nowhere

We can also use powerscaling to apply to characters who don't do as much AoE damage as characters weaker than them.

I'm well aware of that chuckles :maybe

Calculations are fine as long as it's basic elementary shit like v=d/t, but when you're doing multiple formulas or are trying to count the pixels, then you're out of the line. Why? Because the authors clearly don't care about how big the stuff in the background are. The calculations are by fans and therefore not canon.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt chuckles :maybe

As for "author's don't care" shit. Too bad we don't go by author's intent in plae of actual feats and calcs now eh?, and as for them not caring about scale, that's what we're here for isn't it eh?

Second off, if they don't care about numbers, how the **** do we get any destructive or speed values (or stats for that matter) you nitwit?

If it is shown to be mountain level, then of course. If it's a statement from a reliable source (like the author, narrator, a character who knows what he/she is talking about), then it should again be fine. Obvious hyperbole and non-elementary calculations should be thrown out the window.

Which is, again, arguing based off appearances, rather than actual quantifications

So ****ers in the Spirit World is not a reliable source now?

Like I said earlier, there are calculations that put R2 Ulquiorra at Texas level destructive capacity with a single Lanza. And those are only based off of the time the crew took reaching Las Noches and Neliel's statement towards the time required to reach its opposite end. Obviously that's bs.

I'm guessing those calcs must have been ones that were debunked

Plus, those were taking dialogue that is clearly contradicted by visuals from what you say

Regardless, DT Yusuke is still low double digit kiloton, which should allow him to match Kenshiro, though EoDB Goku still kicks his ass handily

DT Yusuke can not take a punch from Kenshiro if Ken wants to kill him, he can't touch Kenshiro if Ken doesn't want to be touched by him.

I believe in cals because without the how could one say soneone is LS or lightning speed those are both calculated levels of speed. Without calcs debating about anime becomes baseless and over fan boyed

Show me the feats!!!! Lol

They have to be consistent by the way

If you mean consistent high ends (which are, in any setting, massively outnumbered by low end garbage), I wholeheartedly agree :maybe

Originally posted by StealthRanger
If you mean consistent high ends (which are, in any setting, massively outnumbered by low end garbage), I wholeheartedly agree :maybe

Consistent meaning basically happening more than once or not contradicted by other feats

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Though if you want a serious reply?

Which chooses to go down the half assed route of going by appearances rather than actual feats, ignoring calcs, will get you nowhere

I'm well aware of that chuckles :maybe

Denial is not just a river in Egypt chuckles :maybe

As for "author's don't care" shit. Too bad we don't go by author's intent in plae of actual feats and calcs now eh?, and as for them not caring about scale, that's what we're here for isn't it eh?

Second off, if they don't care about numbers, how the **** do we get any destructive or speed values (or stats for that matter) you nitwit?

Which is, again, arguing based off appearances, rather than actual quantifications

So ****ers in the Spirit World is not a reliable source now?

I'm guessing those calcs must have been ones that were debunked

Plus, those were taking dialogue that is clearly contradicted by visuals from what you say

Regardless, DT Yusuke is still low double digit kiloton, which should allow him to match Kenshiro, though EoDB Goku still kicks his ass handily

Are you joking? Or are you seriously telling me that fan calculations > what we actually see in the manga as FEATS? So Madara didn't actually chop a mountain range because we can't calculate it?

Are you joking? Or are you seriously telling me that fan calculations > what we actually see in the manga as FEATS?

What do you think we calc chuckles? How many zigzags and squiggles in the background? :distracted

So Madara didn't actually chop a mountain range because we can't calculate it?

Not what I said at all, though good job on the strawman, however

Wait a min. How did you all figure out how fast DBZ, YU YU, and Bleach characters are. You found out via calculating (when overall you all could be wrong and the characters can be much faster than what you are presuming). Don't see anything wrong with what he provided as an indication of power. I just don't like picking and choosing. What you do for one character, you need to do for all.

I just feel like they should be consistant