Odin VS Worldbreaker Hulk: SLUGFEST

Originally posted by h1a8
Lol an astronomically weaker hulk has fought Zeus in a slugfest. And Zeus didn't appear more than 100x more powerful than him. WBH is astronomically more powerful though.

I wouldnt place Surtur far above Zeus if any, would you?

Zeus wanted to teach Hulk a lesson, we wasn't trying to kill him, you would have known that if you have read the story instead of looking at pictures, such a troll u are!!

Was I talking too you, no! We careless what you think you troll, go troll another site, that's all you good for, troll!

Originally posted by the Darkone
Zeus wanted to teach Hulk a lesson, we wasn't trying to kill him, you would have known that if you have read the story instead of looking at pictures, such a troll u are!!

the entire HOTM thing with the wishing well was a backup plan to get his "family" what they needed since his first option of getting zues to fallow through after hulk helped him fell through. zues was petty enough to remember the last time hulk was in olympus and let some monsters out of prison (whom everyone beat up after).

hulk sandbagged for nothing

Originally posted by Silent Master
So, the Hulk is a coward?

Read the story and you'll see why he went there to give his life up.

When will you reply to me carver 🙁 you and h1 are the only ones who are on WBH's side in the Shaman thread now.

Don't make me miss bluewater 😠

Originally posted by psycho gundam
hulk went there to be a sacrifice, and hitting zues in the first place was to provoke him.

the entire HOTM thing with the wishing well was a backup plan to get his "family" what they needed since his first option of getting zues to fallow through after hulk helped him fell through. zues was petty enough to remember the last time hulk was in olympus and let some monsters out of prison (whom everyone beat up after).

hulk sandbagged for nothing

What Im try to say did Zeus kill Hulk, no! Zeus beat him down but did not kill him, it doesn't change the fact Odin and other Sky Fathers can amp at will by this alone Hulk cant win.

Skyfathers operate on a different level of power, period. Too say WBHulk can slug it out with Sky Fathers is PIS, Sky Fathers are 1000x more powerful than heralds level beings just at their base level.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
When will you reply to me carver 🙁 you and h1 are the only ones who are on WBH's side in the Shaman thread now.

Don't make me miss bluewater 😠

What did you say? It's also pointless to reply because you throw around every ft like the character will consistently do this.

Shaman Nate Grey only had a few appearances (much like WBH).

So any feats he has shown in comics, is actually a large percentage of his battle feats.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Shaman Nate Grey only had a few appearances (much like WBH).

So any feats he has shown in comics, is actually a large percentage of his battle feats.

But you always debate like that though. You ignore how the character consistently fight and look at abilities they've done once or twice on panel. Nate has a lot of appearances.

Originally posted by carver9
But you always debate like that though. You ignore how the character consistently fight and look at abilities they've done once or twice on panel. Nate has a lot of appearances.

Shaman doesn't. Otherwise, its like using Savage Hulk's appearances when he fought Batman, or when he couldn't breathe underwater, etc.

But we can take it to that thread, yes?

Originally posted by the Darkone
What Im try to say did Zeus kill Hulk, no! Zeus beat him down but did not kill him, it doesn't change the fact Odin and other Sky Fathers can amp at will by this alone Hulk cant win.

Skyfathers operate on a different level of power, period. Too say WBHulk can slug it out with Sky Fathers is PIS, Sky Fathers are 1000x more powerful than heralds level beings just at their base level.

putting that aside: saying sky-fathers amping = auto win for them when we're talking about a fist fight with the broken version of the hulk is asinine. sure odin has more power overall but most of his fist fights were metaphysical but appeared to be simple attacks, sort of like how in star trek a war between the Q continuum appeared to be like the war of 1812 when in actuality it was a war of cosmic beings. his actual fights, like against thanos weren't on the same level.

hulk wasn't putting in any real effort vs zues and by now EVERYONE should know what it looks like when he actually does. no way would it be a stomp, odin or zeus would have to work for it.

Odin is weaker physically that Zeus in base form. Thor is actually stronger than Odin in base form. Zeus amped his physical stats in the Hulk fight

If Odin does not amp his physical stats during the fight, Hulk wins.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
For those saying Hulk...

What would your opinion be if it WASN'T a slugfest?

If Odin, why? Is it because of his myriad other powers?

If yes, then what happens if Odin channelled all his energy that he would normally use for his other powers into strength and durability?

Usually, its not a 1 to 1 (so firing energy blasts from your eyes doesn't mean that you can punch that hard). But with magic, I would see it as a different matter - they all come from the same pool.

So the energy needed to timestop, for example - Odin could channel that into his fists.

Odin wins.

Without amping, Odin loses in a slugfest. With amping, Odin wins the slugfest, as Skyfathers seem to amp faster than Hulk and at a much faster rate.

Utilizing full power, Odin wins rather handily.

BTW. The Thanos vs Odin fight is taken out of context to a great degree. Thanos fans use Thanos' beating as if it is a badge of honor or a great durability feat. Odin basically stood in one place the whole time and simply increased the strength of his assaults when he saw Thanos wasn't going down. Odin really wasn't even close to going all out, as it seems. He seemed to be gauging Thanos' durability. Odin really didn't even budge. If he engaged in a flurry of attacks, Thanos would be going down hard.

Originally posted by Raisen
Odin is weaker physically that Zeus in base form. Thor is actually stronger than Odin in base form. Zeus amped his physical stats in the Hulk fight

If Odin does not amp his physical stats during the fight, Hulk wins.

I remember when they all used to work out together, and Zeus and Thor used to be like, "Man, Odin is so weaksauce, what a sissy." And, then when it was Zeus or Thor's turn to bench press or overhead press a lot of weight, Odin would have to stand aside because he was like, "I wanna help you guys, but, like, I'm so weaksauce that I can only lift a little bitty amount of weight.".

Then everybody would laugh at Odin, and he would run away, yelling, "I'm never ever comin' back here and workin' out with you guys! I can't help if I am physically weaker than you and everybody else! And, probably weaker than Hulk!"

Yeah, good call. 🙄

Originally posted by carver9
I still don't get why people are using that Zeus fight as any type of evidence. Hulk went there to commit suicide.

If you mean Hulk went to Zeus to fix his family despite Hercules warning him about Zeus having a nasty temper, it fits more on Hulk being stubborn rather than going there to commit suicide.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/HerculesGuidedbyanUnknownPower1.jpg?t=1305345434
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/HerculesGuidedbyanUnknownPower2.jpg?t=1305345475
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/HerculesGuidedbyanUnknownPower3.jpg?t=1305345509

🙄

Later on, Banner asked Hercules to punch him.Which Herc did, which angered Banner turning him into Hulk.So Banner(or Hulk) was expecting a fight from Zeus himself.Which Hulk got beaten up in the end by the way 😄

^ in exchange for his family to be healed, zeus even recognized that.
he didn't deliver out of spite

it's not hard to grasp

Originally posted by Raisen
Odin is weaker physically that Zeus in base form. Thor is actually stronger than Odin in base form. Zeus amped his physical stats in the Hulk fight

If Odin does not amp his physical stats during the fight, Hulk wins.

The handbooks claim he is weaker.

Comics tell a different tale.

Originally posted by the Darkone
What Im try to say did Zeus kill Hulk, no! Zeus beat him down but did not kill him, it doesn't change the fact Odin and other Sky Fathers can amp at will by this alone Hulk cant win.

Skyfathers operate on a different level of power, period. Too say WBHulk can slug it out with Sky Fathers is PIS, Sky Fathers are 1000x more powerful than heralds level beings just at their base level.

Skyfathers are not necessarily more powerful than heralds in physicality.
In overall power yes, but not necessarily strength.
In durability yes, but not necessarily strength.

We based things off showings and feats. Zeus greatest feat of strength was bashing Hulk. He has nothing higher. Should we assume Zeus is stronger than what he shown against Hulk? If so then how much stronger should we assume without proof?

Odin was created to be physically weaker than Thor. In later comics, different writer's felt Odin should be stronger so they shown him with a greater strength than Thor, but not by much (no more than 5x). Zeus was shown to amp to lift a mountain. Why amp? Also his face didn't appear to be lifting it casually either.

There is no rule in comics OR LOGIC that says a skyfather should be more than 5x stronger than the average herald level being. Thus to show strength we need convincing evidence. Not our opinion of what we want to be the case.

Last thing. WBH was more than 1000x beyond any herald in strength. He was astronomically more. You know what astronomically is right? (more than billions)

How much energy is required to stop time?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How much energy is required to stop time?

Originally posted by Horrificus
Yeah, you are right.

I remember when they all used to work out together, and Zeus and Thor used to be like, "Man, Odin is so weaksauce, what a sissy." And, then when it was Zeus or Thor's turn to bench press or overhead press a lot of weight, Odin would have to stand aside because he was like, "I wanna help you guys, but, like, I'm so weaksauce that I can only lift a little bitty amount of weight.".

Then everybody would laugh at Odin, and he would run away, yelling, "I'm never ever comin' back here and workin' out with you guys! I can't help if I am physically weaker than you and everybody else! And, probably weaker than Hulk!"

Yeah, good call. 🙄

What are you infering then?