Shaman X-Man vs Top Lanterns
not a Gauntlet. No a 1 vs team. this is a One vs One fight. list the Lanterns that fall under the Mutan Shaman or the one that beats him
Peak Shaman X-Man(God Cable feats are also included)
vs
1. GL Hal Jordan
2. Sinestro
3. Atrocitus
4. Cyborg Superman with GL rings and power battery
5. Mongul W/ Power Rings
6. Agent Orange(10 construct corps allowed)
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Originally posted by "Id"not because the list is not in order. and he starts fresh on each fight..
Taking that group one at a time, is basically a Gauntlet. Agent Orange is the only one I doubt he can beat thoroughly.
I believe the Cyborg will be his bigest challenge... could he mind rape a Cybernetic Brain? take control of his organic brain side?
Won't really matter. Shift into Planck time, then make Larf remember a time when he still had his family with him, I.e when he didn't have the light of avarice within him.
Give him 10000 constructs, and they'd still fail. Same with Atrocitus...dredge up the memory of him before the rage, and he loses his power.
Originally posted by ThereIsHope
Not so fast there credible hulk.Dont these guys have TP resistance?
Some do, some don't. And whilst altering events in the Planck length may be viewed as a temporal thing, I don't view it in the same manner.
That is to say, I am only using the stepping into Planck length tactic as a means of accessing a'safe zone', similar to Magik and Limbo. The Lanterns won't be able to follow him, and won't be able to affect him.
From here, he can do whatever he likes, at his leisure, without fear of attack from the Lanterns.
As for the psychosomatic tactic, it isn't an attack per se - he's just plucking their happiest memories, and enabling them to relive it. No force required.
Similar to this:
Even without shifting into Planck length, note how Venom was trying to affect him, saying he wasn't quite solid (which I take to mean physical attacks weren't quite working on him).
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Some do, some don't. And whilst altering events in the Planck length may be viewed as a temporal thing, I don't view it in the same manner.That is to say, I am only using the stepping into Planck length tactic as a means of accessing a'safe zone', similar to Magik and Limbo. The Lanterns won't be able to follow him, and won't be able to affect him.
From here, he can do whatever he likes, at his leisure, without fear of attack from the Lanterns.
As for the psychosomatic tactic, it isn't an attack per se - he's just plucking their happiest memories, and enabling them to relive it. No force required.
Similar to this:
Even without shifting into Planck length, note how Venom was trying to affect him, saying he wasn't quite solid (which I take to mean physical attacks weren't quite working on him).
Also this safe zone where he can't be touched isn't that sort of BFR himself? I remember being told the idea of superman going into orbit or close to it and sniping with heat vision to take out a team was technically him BFR himself despite him still engaging in the fight (never mind the 'out of character' argument to it but still lol)
Would the concept of it being self BFR be the same?
Originally posted by SevenShackles
Interesting. Does he need physical contact when not shifting into Planck length? Or was holding venoms head dramatic flare/defense from him chomping his head while he was talking?Also this safe zone where he can't be touched isn't that sort of BFR himself? I remember being told the idea of superman going into orbit or close to it and sniping with heat vision to take out a team was technically him BFR himself despite him still engaging in the fight (never mind the 'out of character' argument to it but still lol)
Would the concept of it being self BFR be the same?
Oh, sorry, I think you misunderstand.
Nate can shift 'out of time, in the Planck length between moments'. So he is essentially moving perpendicular to the time frame of his opponents. Geographically, he is still there, but time-wise, he isn't, if that makes sense. Kinda like a super-speedster.
Holding Venom's head, and the flare, I took to be him using his TP powers to pluck the memory out of Venom - he doesn't go into Planck length until later, when Mimic tries to copy his powers (note in the 1st scan how Daken's claws, Moonstone and Bullseye's arrows pass harmlessly through him):
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3315/darkxmen003012.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1583/darkxmen003014.jpg
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2325/darkxmen003015.jpg
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3186/darkxmen003016.jpg
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/8082/darkxmen003017.jpg
Ares was able to follow him in, because he is a war god who exists on every plane of existence, or something like that. But note how easily Nate is able to push Mimic out of Planck length, without using physical contact.
Will have to ask the mods I guess if its considered self-BFR, I don't, however, as he is still on the battlefield, but every second relative to him is infinitely long outside of his own frame of reference.
Originally posted by googolI believe the Cyborg will be his bigest challenge... could he mind rape a Cybernetic Brain? take control of his organic brain side?
He is a challenging one, but I feel Nate is one of the few better equipped to take out Cyborg.
Cyborg has an astral body, that can be harmed. Someone like Nate that is able to toy with the astral realm, can change grounds of battle to his advantage by shifting himself, and Cyborg into the Astral Realm.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh, sorry, I think you misunderstand.Nate can shift 'out of time, in the Planck length between moments'. So he is essentially moving perpendicular to the time frame of his opponents. Geographically, he is still there, but time-wise, he isn't, if that makes sense. Kinda like a super-speedster.
Holding Venom's head, and the flare, I took to be him using his TP powers to pluck the memory out of Venom - he doesn't go into Planck length until later, when Mimic tries to copy his powers (note in the 1st scan how Daken's claws, Moonstone and Bullseye's arrows pass harmlessly through him):
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3315/darkxmen003012.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1583/darkxmen003014.jpg
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2325/darkxmen003015.jpg
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3186/darkxmen003016.jpg
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/8082/darkxmen003017.jpgAres was able to follow him in, because he is a war god who exists on every plane of existence, or something like that. But note how easily Nate is able to push Mimic out of Planck length, without using physical contact.
Will have to ask the mods I guess if its considered self-BFR, I don't, however, as he is still on the battlefield, but every second relative to him is infinitely long outside of his own frame of reference.
Wow I actually have this comic and forgot all about it! Thanks for explaining it to me I understand alot better now.
Last time I really gave Nate any attention was In the x-man/cable storyline 'blood brothers' back in 99(I think) so Im glad to learn more.
