Originally posted by carver9
@Zop Zop....It was stated on panel during the Adam fight that there were stronger opponents, faster opponents, and more durable opponents than Adam...the only reason he did good was due to them holding back. All stated on panel bro.
At the new guy...
Sinister and his crew was amped off of Celestial power. Of course they would do good against the P5. Duuh.
Originally posted by ThereIsHope
If the Pheonix power is in the P5 why does it matter if they have celestial tech? But those damn celestials usualy are stronger then everyone in MU.
The Madelyne Clones sucked the PF out of the unworthy hosts and that's how they beat them. Sinister was undone when Emma made contact with the PF and convinced it Sinister was just using it for his own ends. It ended badly for Celestial tech Sinister and his entire nation.
Originally posted by ThereIsHope
So did Sinister get his hands dirty at all in AVX? As in did he do any of the fighting himself?
Lucky for him he sent an aspect of his psyche into another host body. His entire nation was annihilated though.
Originally posted by ThereIsHope
So did Sinister get his hands dirty at all in AVX? As in did he do any of the fighting himself?
Kinda, as it was his clones - saying which one was the 'true' Sinister is difficult to say.
Originally posted by carver9
@Zop Zop....It was stated on panel during the Adam fight that there were stronger opponents, faster opponents, and more durable opponents than Adam...the only reason he did good was due to them holding back. All stated on panel bro.
Broforce, ACTIVATE!!
Originally posted by zopzop
Still doesn't change the fact that the team BA took on was infinitely more impressive than what Failmor took on.
O rly???
Looking at this scan:
I would only rate:
Jakeem, WW, MM, Alan Scott, maybe PG and Guy. And we know Jakeem didn't do sh!t against BA, so we can discount him. The others weren't all that, I mean, Vixen, Hourman, Wildcat, Green Arrow, Arsenal, Canary, Shining Knight? Yes, numbers wise, it was very impressive, and they WOULD overwhelm the Avengers team, but it was really lots of mid tier characters against an angry herald.
I won't say infinitely more impressive. Strange, Thor, Wanda, a definitely bloodlusted BP, IF and Rulk. Especially the casual way he broke Rulk's arm, and no sold a sneak charged hammer blow to the back of his head from an angry Thor.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I would only rate:
Jakeem, WW, MM, Alan Scott, maybe PG and Guy. And we know Jakeem didn't do sh!t against BA, so we can discount him. ......
I won't say infinitely more impressive. Strange, Thor, Wanda, a definitely bloodlusted BP, IF and Rulk. Especially the casual way he broke Rulk's arm, and no sold a sneak charged hammer blow to the back of his head from an angry Thor.
Originally posted by zopzopWW, MM, Alan Scott, John Stewart, Power Girl, Guy, Firestorm, and I think I saw the female Dr. Light. Just those guys right there would have destroyed P5 Namor. They would have annihilated that Avengers line up he was facing too.
Strange wasn't Sorc Supreme, Thor was jobbing the entire event, Wanda had her hands full with Modok, IF is a joke compared to the above guys mentioned, Rulk is a jobber, who's BP? [/B]
Originally posted by zopzopWW, MM, Alan Scott, John Stewart, Power Girl, Guy, Firestorm, and I think I saw the female Dr. Light. Just those guys right there would have destroyed P5 Namor. They would have annihilated that Avengers line up he was facing too.
Strange wasn't Sorc Supreme, Thor was jobbing the entire event, Wanda had her hands full with Modok, IF is a joke compared to the above guys mentioned, Rulk is a jobber, who's BP? [/B]
BP = Black Panther.
Originally posted by zopzop
And he was bloodlusted!?! hysterical That changes....................nothing!Seriously though, WW3 BA FTW!
Considering some of the stuff he has done with prep, and they were attacking his kingdom and killing his people, I would give him more wins over most of that 'infinitely more impressive team' that BA faced 😉
Originally posted by DarkSaint85"There are those amongst us, who are stronger, or faster, or more powerful. None are more ferocious."
So, even as they are getting beat, MM acknowledges its his ferocity, and his opponents relative timidity that keeps BA in the game. Not his power, or strength.
Namor won't make the same mistake.
WW3 BA showing and opponents are more impressive than anyone or any team P5 Failmor fought.
Originally posted by zopzop
I'm aware of that scan and it proves nothing really. The Avengers team Failmor faced wasn't bloodlusted either. They just wanted to put him down.WW3 BA showing and opponents are more impressive than anyone or any team P5 Failmor fought.
Yes, like Kimiyo going in hand to hand with BA, and Firestorm going hand to hand as well...yup, impressive indeed.
Bloodlusted or not, BA wasn't powered up. If he was (and I haven't seen anything to suggest he was), then as MM says, he still wasn't the strongest on the field - so that means either WW is stronger, or PG, or MM. Hardly top drawer material.
You also failed to mention that Wanda, up until that time, was the one thing that had managed to have any effect, and then barely stopped him. It's like shooting Clark with Kryptonite, so MODOK showings don't really prove anything.
It took all of them, and all they did was knock him out with a lucky shot.
What was the one strength feat BA performed in a WW3 fight then, that ranks up with casually breaking a Hulk's arm in two with one hand?
What was the durability feat that ranks up with no selling Thor's hit?
Xavier never put him in a coma, btw.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes, like Kimiyo going in hand to hand with BA, and Firestorm going hand to hand as well...yup, impressive indeed.
Bloodlusted or not, BA wasn't powered up. If he was (and I haven't seen anything to suggest he was), then as MM says, he still wasn't the strongest on the field - so that means either WW is stronger, or PG, or MM. Hardly top drawer material.
You also failed to mention that Wanda, up until that time, was the one thing that had managed to have any effect, and then barely stopped him. It's like shooting Clark with Kryptonite, so MODOK showings don't really prove anything.It took all of them, and all they did was knock him out with a lucky shot.
What was the one strength feat BA performed in a WW3 fight then, that ranks up with casually breaking a Hulk's arm in two with one hand?What was the durability feat that ranks up with no selling Thor's hit?
Xavier never put him in a coma, btw.
Xavier did worse than putting him into a coma. He KOed his ass and then rearranged his memories to make it as if Xavier was never there! That's the very definition of pwnage. FAIL!