Dr. Octopus (NOT Spider-Oct) vs Wolverine

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Originally posted by KingD19
There's only one way to deal with it. The Carbonadium Synthesizer, and Logan had it hidden for years. And when it finally showed up(in Logan's possession yet again), he hid it once again.

So there was no way for him to do that.

Red recovered it... no idea what happened with it after he died, though.

Not even classic Kaine could break omnium shackles, yet Slott wants us to believe Parker can break one-foot thick carbonadium? El oh el.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Not even classic Kaine could break omnium shackles, yet Slott wants us to believe Parker can break one-foot thick carbonadium? El oh el.

:erm:

You're invoking the name of Superman now?
Want me to introduce you to a good Christian group instead?

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It's a maddening frustration to no longer have the X-Men #5-7 (1992) story arc in my possession.

If I could only post the relevant panels, it might end all this talk of carbonadium being some death-dealing substance all on its own.

Maybe if contained within the human body in large amounts it might produce some problems. But it really has been stated repeatedly that the very reason Omega Red has forever been seeking what people keep calling "c-synth" is because carbonadium is the very metal that COUNTERS his personal mutant death factor.

Carbonadium is exactly WHAT that c-synth device makes!!

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Here, I don't imagine posting this will change much, but I'm honorbound to post it anyway ...

(Maybe I can convince P.R. to post from his collection of X-Men comics? How about it, P.R.? Just those few pages of X-Men #s 5-7 that talk directly about the carbonadium synthesizer and what it does for Red? Buy you an Aquaman action figure in exchange? A puppy? Some green kryptonite? I think they call that stuff "jadarite" and that's it's actually white in real life, but you'd still be the only man in your town to own some, wouldn't you ...? 😕 )

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Omega Red has the ability, and need, to drain the life force of victims with his pheromones in order to sustain his own. Omega Red can likewise ensnare his victims within his tentacles, and use the coils as a conduit for his lethal pheromones. Due to the mutant "death factor" and the presence of the carbonadium within his body, Omega Red must drain the life force of others on a regular basis in order to sustain his own physical health and remain active. Omega Red can use these absorbed energies to, temporarily, increase his body's healing capabilities to the point where he can fully heal from a punctured lung within a few minutes. Only a device known as the Carbonadium Synthesizer can stabilize his condition, as carbonadium is the only metal that can neutralize the "death factor", thereby stabilizing it within his body.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Omega-Red/59821247184?sk=info

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Not even classic Kaine could break omnium shackles, yet Slott wants us to believe Parker can break one-foot thick carbonadium? El oh el.


Yeah him just breaking like that is pretty silly, unless that armor gives him waay more strength than I know of.

The arms are not and were not solid carbonadium, guys.

You can look at the artwork and see the covering of Ock's arms was only about an inch or so thick.

Here, take and re-examine that scene and you'll see what I'm saying is true:

He still shouldn't be able to break it.

About carbonadium; do us a favour and finally read Wolverine: Origins. Current post-retcon stuff is all that matters on forums and handbooks aren't reliable at all, sadly.

Didn't Wolverine use a Carbonadium bullet against Daken, which stopped his HF?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Didn't Wolverine use a Carbonadium bullet against Daken, which stopped his HF?

Bucky did, but yeah he got those bullets from Logan for that exact purpose.

Carbonadium reduces hf speed to "crawl", it affected BC Wolverine, Daken, Omega Red, Cyber (even though his carbonadium pacemaker was on the outside of his adamantium armor, it still poisoned him).

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

About carbonadium; do us a favour and finally read Wolverine: Origins. Current post-retcon stuff is all that matters on forums and handbooks aren't reliable at all, sadly.

If "current post-retcon stuff is all that matters on forums", why are you trying to argue that Peter Parker can't break carbonadium metal?

In a "current post-retcon" comic, after all he DID so.

In fact, I showed that to you just a few hours ago.

It's more recent than your "Wolverine Origins" book by several years.

What's there to argue?

Originally posted by KingD19
There's only one way to deal with it. The Carbonadium Synthesizer, and Logan had it hidden for years. And when it finally showed up(in Logan's possession yet again), he hid it once again.

So there was no way for him to do that.

Unless the Carbonadium Synthesizer was created by Arceus or something, I bet it was constructed by a guy, who was likely not as smart as Doc Ock, so Octavius may have built one of his own.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
If "current post-retcon stuff is all that matters on forums", why are you trying to argue that Peter Parker can't break carbonadium metal?

In a "current post-retcon" comic, after all he DID so.

In fact, I showed that to you just a few hours ago.

It's more recent than your "Wolverine Origins" book by several years.

What's there to argue?

Because it's PIS at its worst. Even the Class 100 characters would have trouble performing that feat (assuming they would be able to achieve anything at all) and Parker's definitely not in that league. Few extreme showings don't place him that high.

Several years...? Not really. Two years.

Class 100's wouldn't have trouble doing that feat. They would break it like wet noodles, chump.

Spiderman has at least one feat of the top of my head that puts his strength way above what it is regarded as.

Originally posted by Mindset
Spiderman has at least one feat of the top of my head that puts his strength way above what it is regarded as.

sigh....

all right, i'll ask: which feat mindset?

Resisting Rapeman longer than most or some shit like that.

Originally posted by leonidas
sigh....

all right, i'll ask: which feat mindset?

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6131/feat7strength6bi7.jpg

or

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9624/feat46strength8uh7.jpg

or

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4223/feat2strength1ur3.jpg

All of those examples are invalid.

lol

Mindset posting scans and not mentioning Iron Fist once? Who that **** is this imposter? 😠