Red Lantern Superman vs Hulk

Started by ThereIsHope9 pages

The story is what counts, not what sold.

Originally posted by ThereIsHope
The story is what counts, not what sold.
That's subjective. The companies produce the stories to make money. Money talks. Hulk wins again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's subjective. The companies produce the stories to make money. Money talks. Hulk wins again.

If money spoke then it would probably laugh at you.

WWH are just examples of money that make Marvel money in the short-term and then end up hurting them in the long run.

Originally posted by curryman
If money spoke then it would probably laugh at you.

WWH are just examples of money that make Marvel money in the short-term and then end up hurting them in the long run.

Making money on a story is the goal. How can making money hurt a company whose goal is to make money ? You make no sense.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Making money on a story is the goal. How can making money hurt a company whose goal is to make money ? You make no sense.

Cause it makes it harder to make money later on, obviously.

They don't need to make money one month. They need to make money the next 20 years.

They didn't pull in new readers, nor did they up their sales, because other books suffered when WWH was out. So they killed a few ongoing titles by directing the reader-flow to a temporary title.

The more concise, more varied and arguably easier accessible titles died (Such as MI6 and Immortal Iron Fist) and it only led into more failed WWH-ventures. The follow-ups made little money and added only more nonsense to an already convoluted universe.

Discouraging new readers. And to add onto that WWH was butchered by a lot of critics turning away even more new readers.

Kang Earth, or Dynasty as it's actually called helped revitalize Avengers in the early 2000s. It brought some sales to a book that needed it , was written by a competent writer (Kurt Busiek) and went down as a classic.

Originally posted by curryman
Cause it makes it harder to make money later on, obviously.

They don't need to make money one month. They need to make money the next 20 years.

They didn't pull in new readers, nor did they up their sales, because other books suffered when WWH was out. So they killed a few ongoing titles by directing the reader-flow to a temporary title.

The more concise, more varied and arguably easier accessible titles died (Such as MI6 and Immortal Iron Fist) and it only led into more failed WWH-ventures. The follow-ups made little money and added only more nonsense to an already convoluted universe.

Discouraging new readers. And to add onto that WWH was butchered by a lot of critics turning away even more new readers.

Kang Earth, or Dynasty as it's actually called helped revitalize Avengers in the early 2000s. It brought some sales to a book that needed it , was written by a competent writer (Kurt Busiek) and went down as a classic.

They did pull in readers since they made money. How that story is doesn't have any reflection on what Hulk's stories will be like for the next 20 years. The point is that story made a profit which means mission accomplished.

WW Hulk is a classic. You're acting like your opinion is a fact. It's subjective but guess what isn't. Money. WW Hulk did it's job. Great read and it made money. Make mine marvel.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They did pull in readers since they made money. How that story is doesn't have any reflection on what Hulk's stories will be like for the next 20 years. The point is that story made a profit which means mission accomplished.

WW Hulk is a classic. You're acting like your opinion is a fact. It's subjective but guess what isn't. Money. WW Hulk did it's job. Great read and it made money. Make mine marvel.

Pulling readers away from other Marvel titles is not making money.

It's moving money around.

It didn't earn them new readers. It moved readers away from ongoing titles to short-lived ones.

How is that making money?

Originally posted by quanchi112
They did pull in readers since they made money. How that story is doesn't have any reflection on what Hulk's stories will be like for the next 20 years. The point is that story made a profit which means mission accomplished.

WW Hulk is a classic. You're acting like your opinion is a fact. It's subjective but guess what isn't. Money. WW Hulk did it's job. Great read and it made money. Make mine marvel.

The words "WW Hulk is a classic" void everything you ever say about comics again.

You should sit alone in shame until you realize what you've said.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He's also been shown to be their equals as well. Hulk going all out doesn't feel top tier punches. Superman has been downed before by characters weaker than himself while going all out. You acknowledged what i said to be true. You said you basically hate it. Tell me what I made up.

That's your opinion which is a bit off. You're a Kang fan for crying out loud.

The **** he has.

Honestly Quan, quit while you're barely ahead.

Originally posted by quanchi112
WW Hulk is a classic.
Originally posted by quanchi112
WW Hulk did it's job.

There are so many holes in your argument that it's not even funny Quan.

Did you just say that Superman has been downed by guys weaker then himself? Do you then admit that its CIS, or PIS? Thank you for admitting that. Now shut SHHHH.

Originally posted by carver9
KO should suffice and I can't remember the last time current Hulk has been koed outside of fighting a Doombot. I don't even know if its possible to knock this guy out.

I don't recall Hulk shown to be ko'd after that. He was also beating about a dozen of them at one point under the same writer. Would be pretty silly to go from having Hulk easily ko'd by one to then soloing a dozen of them + plus the army of Hulk creatures.

On topic - an angry, borderline retarded Superman restricted to h2h only vs one of the deadliest Hulk's ever? Hmmm tough choice...

An angry Superman with an insane healing factor.

And no speed. And no BFR.

True, but the HF balances things out, imo.

Superman and Hulk would already be a good fight...giving him this red ring makes things interesting.

How good is the Hulks healing factor in this?

Originally posted by ThereIsHope
How good is the Hulks healing factor in this?

From the way it looks, Waid is making it so that Hulk doesnt even need his healing factor....he's completely indestructible. Current Hulk is by far one of the most impressive Hulks I've seen.

Until Doom pushes his ****ing face in again

Yes ive heard that this indestructable hulk is made of pure ownage.