i did not see any attempt to appraise jj's fanboy loyalties.
i wouldn't waste time attempting to decipher ddm's thought process, but i'm fairly certain that his statement alluded to the likely prevalent fear of too many directoral similarities which might surface between ST and the new SW, which would severely annoy trekkies, among many others...myself included.
Abram's Star Trek movie was by far the best Trek movie Imo and brought the franchise back to the wider audience.
It was such a HUGE improvement after those embarrassing Next Gen movies.
Simply put Abram's made Star Trek "Cool" again.
If Abram's can do anything like that for SW then I think we will all be pretty happy.
is it possible for you to enjoy a story's reincarnation without taking a big steamy dump all over its source material?
i enjoyed the new ST as well, and yes the ST-TNG films after first contact were embarrassing (as were eps 1,4,&5), but wrath of khan and undiscovered country were at least on par (im being generous toward abrams there).
I'd honestly rate FC and WOK as being better. The truth was that for most Trekkies, Abrams' movie wasn't Star Trek, but was a Star Trek movie, as contradictory as that might seem. The franchise needed a shot of life, and it got it. For that alone, Abrams needs to be commended.
That and Karl Urban as McCoy. Holy hell he was good in that role.
Originally posted by focus4chumps
is it possible for you to enjoy a story's reincarnation without taking a big steamy dump all over its source material? i enjoyed the new ST as well, and yes the ST-TNG films after first contact were embarrassing (as were eps 1,4,&5), but wrath of khan and undiscovered country were at least on par (im being generous toward abrams there)
Yes Star Trek's 2-4 were class. And it was a franchise that was still enjoyed by the wider audience at that time. 6 was ok. Nothing special tbh.
Next Gen movies ruined ST for the big screen though.
First Class was good, but still not the best acting or Direction.
But Abrams really has made the franchise back to the awsomeness and coolness and appeal it had a long time ago (ST 2-4 days). Of course we have to see if he keeps it up with the sequel.
Oh and btw I was always a big fan Star Trek. Really used to live Next Gen as a series. But the Next Gen films were just awful.
Originally posted by -Pr-
The truth was that for most Trekkies, Abrams' movie wasn't Star Trek, but was a Star Trek movie, as contradictory as that might seem.
That's because it was more of a Star Wars movie than a Star Trek one. He is a great choice for the role and I eagerly anticipate what he will create.
Originally posted by ares834
That's because it was more of a Star Wars movie than a Star Trek one. He is a great choice for the role and I eagerly anticipate what he will create.
Sure, but not what I meant. Star Trek movies have, for the most part, been a departure from the show. Large scale action pieces with the entire galaxy at stake rather than the very human, very complex stories that the show gave us.
The only problem is that with no show around, we have to rely on the movies for what makes Trek, Trek.
Hence Abrams reboot prolly, to depart from the show and create a momentum all by itself.
Personally I always liked the original series. But the movies... well, they were always kinda boring. Wrath of Khan is fine, I liked First Contact a lot, but somehow these movies always felt like extracted tv shows. The ST credo of technological advance will benefit universal peace felt overblown and pretentious in the movies. And yes I agree, Abrams made ST cool and vivid and well, better paced... More like a spectacle. Is that good or bad? I dunno, I am not a Trekkie.... but I certainly enjoyed the movie a lot more than the other ST movies.
(But maybe that was because Abrams turned ST into SW... SHHHHHHHHH... don't tell anyone. 😉 )