true sith order.
The sith order consists of two orders
The sith order and the secret order.
The sith order goes like this starting from weakest to adepts
Every sith starts as a novice then becomes a sith warrior. One must choose the path to go on
the sith order goes like this
guardian
adept
sith knight
sith master
darkside prophet
then to aprentice then dark lord of the sith , then emperor.
the secret order goes like this
initiate
jedi hunter
royal assassin
inquisitor
emperors hand
then they go from to aprentice , dark lord of the sith then emperor.
The first siths were
Marka Ragnos
then naga sadow
exar kun
the the sith you know today consisting of a master and aprentice was made by no other then the great Darth Bane.
He came up with the idea of two siths , the old ways consist of many siths , but their dark ways took over and they killed each other. the old sith order was out of control and ended in choas.
From there on his history passed from Sidious to Luke Skywalker.
Yes Altar- YOUR arrogance, not ours. According to Lucasfilm's own policy (as dictated by GL) only George Lucas' words and stories are legit- what right do you have to override that, huh? None of that stuff you provided is in any way part of the canonical Star Wars storyline. Keep EU to the dedicated EU section.
Get used to the way it works before calling US arrogant.
Well, in order for any of you guys to have validity, you need to cite places, so EU is just as worthy as anything else you guys have come up with. I definitely take stock in Lucas' direct words, but when you guys put stuff down, how do I know that's what they are? Give me some direction, fellas, I wanna read it for myself. Hell, Lucas' direction during the first 3 movies is different than where it's headed now. How do I know when those quotes were taken?
So, anyway Yerssot, pretty much all of what's been brought up in this thread isn't in the movies, novel OR radio drama.
Alright, this is from starwars.com. This is lifted in the databank for The Sith. This isn't under the EU section, this is in the Movies area.
An ancient order of Force-practitioners devoted to the dark side and determined to destroy the Jedi, the Sith were a menace long thought extinct. The current incarnation of the Sith is the result of a rogue Jedi dissident from the order. Two thousand years ago, this Jedi had come to the understanding that the true power of the Force lay not through contemplation and passivity. Only by tapping its dark side could its true potential be gained. The Jedi Council at the time balked at this new direction. The Dark Jedi was outcast, but he eventually gained followers to his new order. Awakening beliefs from the dark past, the new Sith cult continued to grow. With the promise of new powers attainable by tapping into the hateful energies of the dark side, it was only a matter of time before the order self-destructed. Internecine struggle by power-hungry Sith practioners dwindled their numbers.
One Sith had the cunning to survive. Darth Bane restructured the cult, so that there could only be two -- no more, no less -- a master, and an apprentice. Bane adopted cunning, subterfuge, and stealth as the fundamental tenets of the Sith order. Bane took an apprentice. When that apprentice succeeded him, that new Sith Lord would take an apprentice.
Thus, the Sith quietly continued for centuries, until the time of Darth Sidious and his apprentice, Darth Maul. By that time, the galaxy at large had believed the Sith to be extinct, a fabled threat from the past. Qui-Gon Jinn's report of a Sith attack on Tatooine was met by the Jedi Council with hesitation and skepticism. Surely if the Sith had returned, the Jedi would have detected it, they reasoned.
The dark side, for all its power, is ultimately hard to detect when required. A shadowy master like Darth Sidious was able to keep his presence a secret, even when sharing a world with the Jedi Temple.
With the death of Darth Maul at Naboo, the Jedi Council realized that the Sith menace was true. What they hadn't puzzled was whether Maul was the master, or the apprentice. Years would pass before the Sith menace arose once more, a menace that would eventually come to engulf the entire galaxy.
I cannot see anything canonical here that is in doubt, Gregor, and as we have direct source info that EU is NO good, then the idea that EU is as good as the canonical stuff cited is nonsensical. Though the only source I personally quoted was from GL himself. You can simply disbelieve the validity of it if you want, but that's not very nice, and I tire of continually having to explain where quotes come from- but just so you know, that quote I gave from GL was in an interview with Time Magazine when TPM came out. But whilst ensuring info is accurate is good in a dry, academic sense, it would be NICE if you did not doubt such things by default.
Incidentally, whilst a good guide, and whilst there is no good reason to dispute what you post, the website isn't canon either and has made errors before. The only truly canon stuff we have on the past of the Sith is that GL quote.