A new age of comic books?

Originally posted by Q99
Mind you, while they often get a starting point*, it's generally just because their points are somewhat sooner, and Marvel's are often more influential**.

*The first appearance of Barry Allen

** The creation of the Fantastic Four [first series with more 'imperfect' heroes who argued among themselves], Spider-man [Spider-man], and the Hulk [having a 'hero' often fight the army, and not desire to be a hero? Nothing like it before] really revolutionized comics.

And/or in some cases, the changes were happening at the same time in both.

DC lead the Golden Age, Marvel the Silver, both jumped into the Bronze and Modern at around the same time as there was more back-and-forth with the writers.

No question Marvel ran with the Silver Age, and even the Bronze Age, but my point was just that DC was the trigger to both.

Actually here, I'd argue that Marvel's film success with mainstream audiences pushed DC into the new 52, which pushed Marvel to NOW. So while from the comic standpoint it was DC that really started this new age, it was Marvel that pushed them into it.

Golgo13

I would say more mainstream. Fantastic Four was based a little bit off of Challengers of the Unknown. The Hulk isn't a new concept, either.

Challengers of the Unknown, in the adventuring group bit, yes, but not so much the interpersonal conflict among superheroes part.

And among Superheroes? The Hulk made a huge splash. Misunderstood monster protagonist was not a thing in the comic medium before him.

Originally posted by Cogito

Actually here, I'd argue that Marvel's film success with mainstream audiences pushed DC into the new 52, which pushed Marvel to NOW. So while from the comic standpoint it was DC that really started this new age, it was Marvel that pushed them into it.

Mm, the movies probably didn't push anything. Successful movies don't affect comic sales significantly (they sell some tie-ins but that's about it), and DC's had the Dark Knight movies too.

Originally posted by Cogito
The interesting debate will be whether it was started by the New 52 or the sudden prominence of super hero movies.

I do miss the old universes, though. 🙁

Originally posted by Q99
Challengers of the Unknown, in the adventuring group bit, yes, but not so much the interpersonal conflict among superheroes part.

And among Superheroes? The Hulk made a huge splash. Misunderstood monster protagonist was not a thing in the comic medium before him.

Mm, the movies probably didn't push anything. Successful movies don't affect comic sales significantly (they sell some tie-ins but that's about it), and DC's had the Dark Knight movies too.

I know, which is why I said "a little bit".