Originally posted by BrockalizerSuperman is what Steve wants to be when he grows up. Only thing I'd give him over Superman is bravery and Kal might be up there with him in that category.
IMO based on feats of bravery, willpower, and inspiring hope Steve would wipe the floor with Clark. Steve's bravery is legendary, even on Olympus.
Originally posted by -Pr-I didn't say he didn't have any, just that I think Steve's are better. Doesn't take much to inspire mere mortals. Inspiring Gods is a different story. Clark wouldn't far much better than the Hulk in the eyes of Zeus.
So let's just forget about all the inspiring shit Superman did, then.
Originally posted by BrockalizerUh you are joking right? Superman is a mirror image of Cap when it comes to willpower, bravery ect. Cap isnt wiping the floor with Clark in those areas
IMO based on feats of bravery, willpower, and inspiring hope Steve would wipe the floor with Clark. Steve's bravery is legendary, even on Olympus.
Originally posted by Brockalizer
IMO based on feats of bravery, willpower, and inspiring hope Steve would wipe the floor with Clark. Steve's bravery is legendary, even on Olympus.
You do know because of who Superman is, Asgard themselves came to him and ask for help? Where he and Diana spent a 1000 fighting a war.
I forgot which being it was, but Superman was ask to be a Universal being at one point. The being told him he could do so much good for the Universe if he transcended to a higher level of power, but Kal refused at the end.
Nothing Steve done, that Superman hasn't done and more.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Superman is what Steve wants to be when he grows up. Only thing I'd give him over Superman is bravery and Kal might be up there with him in that category.
Lol wouldn't go that far. When it comes to all the golden boy, best humanity has to offer traits, I'd say Clark and Steve would be tied. Can't really think of anyone else that comes close to them.
Originally posted by JayDaDon
Lol wouldn't go that far. When it comes to all the golden boy, best humanity has to offer traits, I'd say Clark and Steve would be tied. Can't really think of anyone else that comes close to them.
I would always give Clark the up in legendary moments of inspiration over Steve anytime, while not taking away from Steve's moments.
By the way nice sig. When Power Rangers was the shit.
Honestly, I have to put cap on the same level because 1. He's takes that same honored position in Marvel that Supes does in DC. And 2. He's not nearly as powerful as Superman. He's (for the most part)in alot more danger staring death in the face. And he'll still do it everytime. Compared to the guys he inspires, he's just a human. Superman may inspire gods too, but c'mon, Steve is a human being inspiring gods. That (in my book) counts for so much more. I know everyone won't feel the same though 😛
@Squall, Thanks, I'm pretty happy with how the sig turned out.
Originally posted by JayDaDon
Honestly, I have to put cap on the same level because 1. He's takes that same honored position in Marvel that Supes does in DC. And 2. He's not nearly as powerful as Superman. He's (for the most part)in alot more danger staring death in the face. And he'll still do it everytime. Compared to the guys he inspires, he's just a human. Superman may inspire gods too, but c'mon, Steve is a human being inspiring gods. That (in my book) counts for so much more. I know everyone won't feel the same though 😛@Squall, Thanks, I'm pretty happy with how the sig turned out.
I can understand the whole human aspect, and that's why i don't take anything from him. Whether he inspires humans or Gods.
Kal himself don't just inspire humans or Gods, he inspires Planets, whole Universes. He's feats are legendary. Darkseid hates Superman, but he has a respect for him that he's one of the few beings he's yet to break. He even aspires the Dog Of War himself.
Powerful beings wants him to join there ranks because of who he is, and once the ships are down, everyone looks to him to be there and inspires them to get up and give that extra push.
Originally posted by -Pr-A God like character routinly overpowering opponents far beneath him and inspiring heroes that aren't much more than insects by comparison to follow his lead is not as inspiring a mortal, a runt nonetheless, over coming adversity, and routinely going head to head (regardless of the risk to himself) with adversaries far above his power level, while inspiring the respect and loyalty of heroes and beings that could kill him with minimal effort.
Clark has inspired the gods. And the guardians.Even the quintessence respects and admires him.
Originally posted by BrockalizerHahah nope. Superman inspired a dynasty of superheroes thousands of years in the future. As far as the aspects you mention Cap isnt above Superman face it
A God like character routinly overpowering opponents far beneath him and inspiring heroes that aren't much more than insects by comparison to follow his lead is not as inspiring a mortal, a runt nonetheless, over coming adversity, and routinely going head to head (regardless of the risk to himself) with adversaries far above his power level, while inspiring the respect and loyalty of heroes and beings that could kill him with minimal effort.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Clark has inspired the gods. And the guardians.Even the quintessence respects and admires him.
The Wizard Shazams respect was enough, that he not only allowed him an audience, but let him deliver a verbal tongue lashing and kept his manners.. And the Wizard is usually a major *******. He doesn't even allow Captain Marvel to give him lip.
Cap isn't in the same ballpark as Clark when it comes to willpower, inspiration, or in bravery.
Cap is kind of an *******, instead of talking to Cyclops he stormed an island with 2 Hellicarriers full of mutants so they can take Hope by force
He's quit being Captain America several times, the most notable example in his first volume when he couldn't get into Sharon Carters pants, he threw a fit and quit.
People talking about how Superman is powerful, when you routinely face guys like Doomsday, Zod, Bizzaro, Henshaw, Darkseid, Parasite, Mongul etc...it kind of balances out when Cap routinely faces guys like Red Skull, Crossbones, Batroc, Winter Soldier, Baron Zemo etc etc
Hell even when you look at Superman's human enemies, Lex Luthor is a bigger threat to the world than Cap's entire rogue gallery combined
Cap is to Superman what Spiderman is to Cap, Cap would probably beg Superman to be his sidekick.