Huk, Thor, Superman, Drax: feat vs feat vs feat vs feat
Probably been done already, but I'm too lazy to look.
Based on these feats, who would win in an arm wrestling tournament and in what order?
1. Superman benching the Earth
2. Thor lifting Midgard Serpent
3. Drax ripping a star core in two
4. Hulk tearing adamantium effortlessly
Originally posted by DiesldudeA star is gas, but the core is solid. Lois once asked why she couldn't lift a key laying around in the Fortress of Solitude, and Clark told her that as a security precaution it was made out of matter from the core of a star and that he was the only person on Earth that could lift it.
1- how is dispersing hot gas a strength feat?
Originally posted by Brockalizer
A star is gas, but the core is solid. Lois once asked why she couldn't lift a key laying around in the Fortress of Solitude, and Clark told her that as a security precaution it was made out of matter from the core of a star and that he was the only person on Earth that could lift it.
That was a neutron star or something worse in All Star Superman.
Imagine a few solar masses in the size of Brooklyn
The Sun's core isn't solid, it's made of hot dense gas in the plasmic state.
So Drax's feat wasn't purely strength but some type of energy manipulation.
Superman moving the Earth in the Starbreaker issue was better than benchpressing the Earth. Superman supplied more than 50 Earth weights of Force.
Re: Huk, Thor, Superman, Drax: feat vs feat vs feat vs feat
Originally posted by Brockalizer
Probably been done already, but I'm too lazy to look.
Based on the [re-ordered below] feats, who would win in an arm wrestling tournament and in what order?
Based on what you have:
1. Drax ripping a star core in two
I'd have to see this, but, presuming that the core is something incredibly dense and solid (permitting Drax to grab hold of it to begin with), separating something like that against untold billions of tons of gravimetric pressure, assuming at least a Sun-sized star, would outdo anything done on Earth.
2. Thor lifting Midgard Serpent
This thing supposedly encircled the entire world.
I agree, if what was described is accurate -- breaking the grip of a python larger than its target object, and wound several times around its target object, would probably require more strength than lifting said object itself.
3. Superman benching the Earth
Well, not quite the Earth, but it's equivalent weight as recreated by the pressure of a machine. I suspect we'll see a retcon of it at the rate things are going. Unless ships in the DCU are heavier than the planets that support them.
Then again, the Midgard Serpent feat requires some manuevering to wrap around the head, too.
Regardless, taking these feats as represented here in the thread, benching the Earth has to rank just after breaking the World Serpent's grasp.
Actually, trying to give advantage TO Superman here now ...
the fact that Supes can go from doing something like this to struggling with a ship implies that, under circumstances not yet outlined,
Clark can apparently turn up his physical output a notch. Also, the fact that it was something that lasted 5 days implies a LOT of endurance.
Could Thor match that type of endurance?
Doesn't seem likely ...
4. Hulk tearing adamantium effortlessly
If this is Nul, it was very impressive, but only a net.
If this is Savage Hulk, wrapping Blastaar the living bomb blast in layers of the stuff ...?
Still got to give it to everyone else here based on the feats mentioned.
I would basically have to believe the thickness of adamantium that hulk bent could support the weight of the entire planet Earth to give it the nod over Superman's feat.
I think the adamantium bending was impressive, but not THAT impressive.
Anyway, the armwrestling breakdown:
Drax #1.
Thor #2.
Superman #3.
Hulk #4.
--BUT--
Clark might be able to get Thor with a sudden surge of strength -- Thor is a relatively slow starter in most events
--OR--
assuming he can do just enough to hang in against Thor's initial full pressure, Clark can win using his superior endurance to wear Thor out.
Thor can go for an hour or several hours, after all, but Superman has proven the ability here to go for days. He'll eventually win if they start off reasonably even.
Originally posted by abhilegend
People still use midgard serpent feat? Also lulz at it being better than superman bench-pressing earth's weight.
That feat is suspect to be sure. I mean a normal sized ox FILLED it's mouth. People are forgetting that little aspect of the story, even if they ignore all the other evidence Philosophia presented (stating it took place in some sort of special realm outside normal reality).
Oh and as to the thread, either Drax or Superman's feat wins.
Originally posted by h1a82 problems. Yes, a star is made of hot gas/plasma, and yes the core is just super compressed plasma however if you compress something enough it can take on the properties of a solid. There has been at least on example we have of that in our universe. There is planet, Gliza 581-B I think it's called. This planet is comparable to Earth in size to Earth, but it is bigger and it is made up almost entirely of water. This planet exists at just the right location so that this water doesn't freeze into ice or boil into steam, it remains a liquid. However, due to compression this water takes on the properties of a solid, while maintaining the atomic structure that makes it a liquid.
The Sun's core isn't solid, it's made of hot dense gas in the plasmic state.
So Drax's feat wasn't purely strength but some type of energy manipulation.
Originally posted by Brockalizer
2 problems. Yes, a star is made of hot gas/plasma, and yes the core is just super compressed plasma however if you compress something enough it can take on the properties of a solid. There has been at least on example we have of that in our universe. There is planet, Gliza 581-B I think it's called. This planet is comparable to Earth in size to Earth, but it is bigger and it is made up almost entirely of water. This planet exists at just the right location so that this water doesn't freeze into ice or boil into steam, it remains a liquid. However, due to compression this water takes on the properties of a solid, while maintaining the atomic structure that makes it a liquid.
Secondly, just because it's impossible in the real world doesn't make it impossible in a comic book. The herald Stardust is a being made of pure energy, very similar to the plasma found in stars, but Beta Ray Bill was able to grab it by the throat just as easily as it were a solid body without using energy powers. If one plasmatic object can be gripped physically than so can others, at least in the Marvelverse.
Characters with super powers are not necessarily based on real science (your Stardust example). Stars are. Stars cores can't be grabbed physically and dragged out with astronomically small hands. Denseness =/= grabbability. Now if your hands was big enough to grasp the entire core then yes you can physically pull it out.
You example about the planet is based on a large force (size of influence and not magnitude) surrounding the planet and not a tiny force (small size of influence-hands) acting on a large body.
Star Dust in comics can probably manifest itself as solid structure at any given time. Ever heard of solid light constructs in comics? They are energy yet are concussive.
Re: Huk, Thor, Superman, Drax: feat vs feat vs feat vs feat
Originally posted by BrockalizerSuperman benching the Earth
Probably been done already, but I'm too lazy to look.
Based on these feats, who would win in an arm wrestling tournament and in what order?1. Superman benching the Earth
2. Thor lifting Midgard Serpent
3. Drax ripping a star core in two
4. Hulk tearing adamantium effortlessly
i'd say the adamantium feat is the most impressive, though supes' feat is close. the star feat is just blatantly stupid (classic case of a writer not understanding science and just having a character doing something he thought was 'impressive'😉, as is the serpent feat. too many mitigating factors in the serpent feat that throw the whole thing into question imo.
Originally posted by leonidas
i'd say the adamantium feat is the most impressive, though supes' feat is close. the star feat is just blatantly stupid (classic case of a writer not understanding science and just having a character doing something he thought was 'impressive'😉, as is the serpent feat. too many mitigating factors in the serpent feat that throw the whole thing into question imo.
Also, Drax destroyed a planet just before he tore that star apart.
Originally posted by zopzop
Call me crazy, but aren't star cores SOLID?Also, Drax destroyed a planet just before he tore that star apart.
no, a star core isn't solid. it's impressive enough i guess overcoming the gravity, but....not that big a deal. destroying the planet was shared with thanos, no? or are you thinking of another time? regardless, glads busted a planet, but no way he's breaking adamantium imo. with a blitz he couldn't even SCRATCH cap's shield (which is stronger than adamantium, but....you know what i'm saying).