Tyranus vs. Maul, Opress & Ventress

The only thing that shall be smeared here is mascara from one of you.

Tzeentch._
Faunus doesn't what none of this. He can't handle a dedicated smear campaign.

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Tempest
The only thing that shall be smeared here is mascara from one of you.

😖hifty:

It's about time. I haven't seen a wider neglected opening since your mother parted her legs before me as the Red Sea unto Moses.

Originally posted by Eminence
As they say, come and get some. Your belligerence shall be costly.

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and a pap, from you.

😖hifty:

The first 17 seconds of this video applies to you. uhuh

You come get some!

Team 2 wins no doubt lol.

Ventress has shown capability of holding off Dooku on her own. Maul showed capability of holding off Sidious on his own. Savage did decently against Sidious and Dooku in their respective saberfights.

Team 2 would stomp their competetor.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Ventress has shown capability of holding off Dooku on her own.

Eh?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Maul showed capability of holding off Sidious on his own.

Oh god not this again...

I think I worded that a bit wrong. My point is that Dooku couldn't handle all 3 of these opponents.

No, I'm NOT saying Maul is even on Sidious's tier. I AM saying that he did an impressive job of holding him off, even if it was for a short while.

I'm not saying Ventress is as powerful as Dooku, but I AM saying that she alone was a force to be reckoned with, as shown in her previous duels with him. (Since Savage at that point was little more than a non-factor getting electrocuted every 2 seconds, the fight was being run by Ventress)

So, we've got all 3 of them vs Dooku. It doesn't come out pretty. He gets beaten the hell up.

I think this trio would give even Sidious some trouble tbh.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Will no one defend the Count? Where's Janus when you need him?

Well, I tried to think of an argument for Dooku, but I just can't see any way for him to win here. He may be able to take just the brothers, but even that's debatable. I believe even Maul by himself would be a good challenge for Dooku. While Dooku has better TK than Maul, Maul might be a rival in that area considering how he can TK Obi Wan just as easily as Dooku can, and how he can casually hurl a ship. Dooku's greatest advantages IMO, would be his saber skills and his proficiency with force lightning. Don't get me wrong, I do think Dooku would defeat Maul handily, but it would still be a good challenge. Add Savage, they have a good chance of winning. Add Ventress, Dooku is overwhelmed.

Since you're one of the better debaters here, maybe you can provide a convincing argument for Dooku, because I see no hope for him against all three of them.

S66
Since you're one of the better debaters hereeasily the greatest debater, logician, and rhetorician to ever grace these boards, rivaled only by the great Gideon (God rest his soul), maybe you can provide a convincing argument for Dooku, because I see no hope for him against all three of them.

I think a respectable argument could be made that Dooku's difficulty in combating Opress & Ventress in "Witches of the Mist" owed much to confining space. It's clear that he is no match for Opress physically, but open space would greatly reduce the necessity of getting up close and personal with him.

That same episode saw that Ventress is a mild challenge at best for Dooku (I don't want to sell her short, but he quickly put her on the retreat and disarmed her in short order).

I think if Dooku can put space between his challengers and exploit the terrain, he has a definite shot.

tbh I imagine Maul's presence will prevent any respite Savage and Ventress might allow on their own.

Originally posted by Eminence
tbh I imagine Maul's presence will prevent any respite Savage and Ventress might allow on their own.

Essentially, I imagine the Count's best strategy is to throw shit and run a lot. I agree that he can't take them all (or even two?) on close quarters and survive.

I can only see Dooku lasting a while using that strategy, not actually winning. They should be able to evade whatever Dooku throws at them.

I don't think he can keep that up as long as they can.

Dooku loses. He had enough trouble against Opress and Ventress. I would argue that Maul alone would give him a good fight.

In a saber fight, Dooku is outclassed. Didn't Nick Gillard say that Maul was a level 7 duelist, and Dooku was like, a 9? In that case, Savage and Ventress are also 6s or 7s. So this probably would actually be a pretty good duel.

In a Force fight, Savage has shown extremely OP TK feats, Maul has shown capability to TK force users with apparent ease, and Ventress proves to be Mauls level in force power. Dookus only advantage is his skill with For e lightning, which both Maul and Savage can tank, to a certain extent.

Overall, if he plays his cards strategically, he could put up a good fight. But in the end, he goes down against these opponents.

On top of that, Dooku uses Makashi, which is known to be weak against pure brute Fore, as shown when Savage disarmed him with a single blow. So tbh, he has a serious disadvantage here.