Thor vs General Zod

Started by Silent Master8 pages
Originally posted by h1a8
I never seen Thor dodge or block a super speed punch thrown from a few feet away.
Sure he has block energy beams from 30ft away or more but that's not the same thing. Can Thor block or dodge a super fast attack thrown from 3-5 ft away? If so, then how about 10-100 of them thrown in succession?

2nd request, how fast was Zod going when he "blitzed Superman with countless punches"?

Originally posted by Silent Master
2nd request, how fast was Zod going when he "blitzed Superman with countless punches"?

Why can't you just accept the on panel evidence that h1 posted? You'll never agree due to your bias; one can always find a way to scrutinize evidence, no matter how solid it is.

Originally posted by Silent Master
2nd request, how fast was Zod going when he "blitzed Superman with countless punches"?

We can't know that exact speed but we can know that he was moving very fast.

Originally posted by h1a8
We can't know that exact speed but we can know that he was moving very fast.

Don't even bother; this guy will pick anything apart to justify his bias. It's sickening.

Originally posted by Silent Master
2nd request, how fast was Zod going when he "blitzed Superman with countless punches"?

Very. The answer is 'Zod was going very fast'.

He didn't even blitz Superman...

He coldcocked him once.

And he hit him a couple times when Superman was stunned.

Originally posted by h1a8
We can't know that exact speed but we can know that he was moving very fast.

Why, because of the multiple hits in a single panel? I've seen Daredevil, Nightwing, Spider-man, Snake-eyes etc do that.

Heck, I've seen Thor II pull that off.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Why, because of the multiple hits in a single panel? I've seen Daredevil, Nightwing, Spider-man, Snake-eyes etc do that.

Heck, I've seen Thor II pull that off.

From the art it appeared much faster than any of those characters are capable of. This is Superman we are talking about that got blitzed. And on average some of those guys could blitz Thor too, not that it would really harm Thor though.

Originally posted by h1a8
From the art it appeared much faster than any of those characters are capable of. This is Superman we are talking about that got blitzed.

What about the art made it look much faster than those characters are capable of?

Originally posted by Silent Master
What about the art made it look much faster than those characters are capable of?
We see 8 attacks that look like they happened at the same time.

Originally posted by h1a8
We see 8 attacks that look like they happened at the same time.

IOW, he at best landed a couple more hits per panel....how does that show a massive speed edge?

Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, he at best landed a couple more hits per panel....how does that show a massive speed edge?

What's massive?
You right, Thor won't be a complete statue to Zod but the speed edge is significant. I see Zod landing some nasty hits on Thor more easier than Thor landing hits on him.

Originally posted by h1a8
What's massive?
You right, Thor won't be a complete statue to Zod but the speed edge is significant. I see Zod landing some nasty hits on Thor more easier than Thor landing hits on him.

So, You're basing him having a significant speed edge over Thor on him landing a couple more punches per panel than street level characters have managed?

I like how the lines indicate his punches, yet in the previous panel that isn't the case. And how Superman's body is moving into the punches, and his voice is coming from the other direction...

Zod. People keep asking for scans of Zod speed but have no scans of Thor speed feats to give. It's because Thor doesn't have any and is portrayed to be slower than Spiderman and have been biltz by him before. How fast does Zod have to be to take Thor down without feeling threaten? Faster than Spiderman. And I like Thor, but I can't think of any possible way for Thor to stop Zod from overwhelming him with speed.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Powerset isn't enough. That's why we bring in stuff like a character's personality.

You have to use Zod's feats. Giving him a ball-park "Kryptonian speed limit" doesn't really work.

Ok, since he isn't Kryptonian.

But stats should matter. Someone shouldn't need to prove a mook Daxamite under a yellow sun can blitz the hell out of Spidey, for example, because we know they have racial based power sets. Proof more comes into play vs their peer speedster bricks (Like Gladiator, Superman, Hype, Majestic), or should imo.

I remember Superman scanning a Kryptonian ship that had these streaks of light going at light speed. THAT'S FAST! He was able to follow them with no problem. Zod may not be on the same level as Supes but he give notice about speed to Supes in every encounter and Supes have to try hard to stop him.

Zod will speed blitz Thor. but still Thor can call down a state wide lighting storm or trap zod in a black hole Thor 7\10 too much raw power