General Zod vs Shazam (Captain Marvel)

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General Zod vs Shazam (Captain Marvel)

Standard versions
1. H2H
2. Both use full powers and abilties no BFR
3. The above with BFR allowed

Both at peak
1. H2H
2. Both use full powers and abilties no BFR
3. The above with BFR allowed

Who wins in each of the above?

Am I correct in assuming magic is a weakness to all kryptonians?

^ That's how it's been so far in the comics. At least, I'm not aware of whether there have been any exceptions.

Cap.

Split.

Captain Marvel

Zod (since he doesn't hold back) and his HV is leathal.

Originally posted by h1a8
Zod (since he doesn't hold back) and his HV is leathal.

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Unlike the HV that Superman has used on CM...?

Marvel ftw

Originally posted by Tony Stark
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Unlike the HV that Superman has used on CM...?

Marvel ftw

Superman is never going to use his HV in such a way where it penetrates through someone killing them. Think Man!

Zod doesn't hold back as the reason his HV appears more lethal than Clark's.

Bottom line: If Zod can penetrate Superman's body with HV then he can Marvel.

Originally posted by h1a8

Superman is never going to use his HV in such a way where it penetrates through someone killing them. Think Man!

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Source: Wonder Woman #219, Volume 2
Writer: Greg Rucka
Pencillers: Tom Derenick, Georges Jeanty, Karl Kerschl, David Lopez, and Rags Morales
Date: September 2005
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http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Wonder_Woman_Vol_2_219

General zod would give him a good fight but I don't think he can take out captain marvel. If Clark is weak to magic I'm going to assume so is zod and despite being a 'vicious militant' superman I still am not convinced he can put captain marvel down for good.

BFR? I thought that was only a factor when zod had the phantom zone tech as part of his basic equipment when he broke free of the PZone with all those kryptonians. After that new krypton stuff it was no longer part of his standard gear Sooo.. Who cares about BFR? Unless marvel has a method of BFR zod I can't recall.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
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Source: Wonder Woman #219, Volume 2
Writer: Greg Rucka
Pencillers: Tom Derenick, Georges Jeanty, Karl Kerschl, David Lopez, and Rags Morales
Date: September 2005
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http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Wonder_Woman_Vol_2_219

That wasn't under normal circumstances. Mind controlled characters is not representative of how they will fight, especially in a forum fight. Diana controls the "Fires of Truth" which grants here nigh resistance to normal and supernatural fire and heat. Even so, Superman's hv was shown to penetrate to her bones.

Zod's HV is lethal...

Who cares about Cap's magic, right?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Zod's HV is lethal...

Who cares about Cap's magic, right?

IMO Zod's HV will have a greater affect on Cap than Cap's magic on Zod.
Zod has the ability to one shot or severely cripple Cap with HV (if he hits him in the right place) but I don't see Cap one shotting Zod anytime soon.

Originally posted by h1a8
IMO Zod's HV will have a greater affect on Cap than Cap's magic on Zod.
Zod has the ability to one shot or severely cripple Cap with HV (if he hits him in the right place) but I don't see Cap one shotting Zod anytime soon.

Why do you think he can one shot captain marvel?
How does Zod cripple captain with heat vision? Cap has plenty of impressive feats both durability and strength and despite Zod being trained in the krytponian military has not shown much if any combat skills to suggest he could or would attack captain with a surgical strike using his HV. (sounds more like something someone would argue Ursa would do given her hit and run tactics using speed, stealth and heat vision)
Zod aside from kryptonian weaponry seemed more of a H2H combatant if anything. Not saying he wouldn't use his powers I'm just saying in character would trade blows. Something cap can do rather well.

Originally posted by h1a8
IMO Zod's HV will have a greater affect on Cap than Cap's magic on Zod.
Zod has the ability to one shot or severely cripple Cap with HV (if he hits him in the right place) but I don't see Cap one shotting Zod anytime soon.

oh dude after you mentioned cap can be one shotted by zod i just lost all respect for your post.

Stop talkng with a paper *******. Good fight Zod aint winning though. For god sake marvel has battled supes and done excellent, he has been turned inside out, he has resisted matter manipulation he has done battle with the specter.

General zod is nothing

If only for the weakness to magic, Cap wins.

If Billy is fighting as stupid naive kid Billy, Zod wins. But that's only if.

Originally posted by zeel
oh dude after you mentioned cap can be one shotted by zod i just lost all respect for your post.

Stop talkng with a paper *******. Good fight Zod aint winning though. For god sake marvel has battled supes and done excellent, he has been turned inside out, he has resisted matter manipulation he has done battle with the specter.

General zod is nothing

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Why do you think he can one shot captain marvel?
How does Zod cripple captain with heat vision? Cap has plenty of impressive feats both durability and strength and despite Zod being trained in the krytponian military has not shown much if any combat skills to suggest he could or would attack captain with a surgical strike using his HV. (sounds more like something someone would argue Ursa would do given her hit and run tactics using speed, stealth and heat vision)
Zod aside from kryptonian weaponry seemed more of a H2H combatant if anything. Not saying he wouldn't use his powers I'm just saying in character would trade blows. Something cap can do rather well.

Because Zod's hv went all the way through Superman in one blast. Superman was lucky that it wasn't in a vital spot. CM is not more durable than Superman.

Can someone post the scan where Captain Marvel was hit by a blast that turned him inside out and he survived it and healed in q couple of panels.

Cap.