Christopher Dorner, Ex-LAPD on a killing spree

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[Updated at 8:34 p.m. ET] At some point today, a suspect tried to get out the back door of the cabin, but he was pushed back inside, U.S. Marshals Service district chief Kurt Ellingson told CNN's Brian Todd.
[Updated at 9:14 p.m. ET] Earlier, we reported that U.S. Marshals Service district chief Kurt Ellingson told us a suspect tried to get out the back door of the cabin at some point today and was pushed back inside. But there are now conflicting reports about whether the suspect ever emerged.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/12/police-checking-reports-that-ex-lapd-officer-dorner-sighted/

So they shoved him back in to burn? Interesting.

I have trouble reconciling how someone as apparently well armed as Dorner was "pushed" back into a building he was supposedly trying to flee.

But I doubt we'll ever get the full story considering how the news on this has been handled so far.

I interpreted "pushed back" to mean like "he tried to go out the back door, and when he did we unloaded on the guy until he went back inside."

i translate "pushed back inside" as "pushed back inside"

Originally posted by Robtard
I have trouble reconciling how someone as apparently well armed as Dorner was "pushed" back into a building he was supposedly trying to flee.

But I doubt we'll ever get the full story considering how the news on this has been handled so far.


Well, if you're blind from tear gas/smoke, near-paralyzed from coughing, and trying to escape the fire, I don't think it's too crazy to think that a guy waiting outside the door couldn't just shove you back inside.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Well, if you're blind from tear gas/smoke, near-paralyzed from coughing, and trying to escape the fire, I don't think it's too crazy to think that a guy waiting outside the door couldn't just shove you back inside.

Fair enough.

This whole thing is messed up... they burned down someone's entire house to get one guy? All of it seems really suspicious to me.

And here I thought Dorner is the one who started the fire, then shot himself.

...Interesting tactic for the police to use, though. Wonder if that's in the department's SOPs?

Has it been confirmed anywhere that they were the ones who lit the building on fire?

not that I have seen

EDIT: my bad, apparently they claim they used pyrotechnic tear gas, the same type of thing that is responsible for the fire at WACO. However, there is unconfirmed audio where "police" discuss burning the cabin down.

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though, TYT have been crazy apologists for Dorner for some reason...

Way back before Woodstock (1969, for the uninitiated), I had a “Support Your Local Police” bumper sticker on my car. We wanted to keep our cops free from federal control.

We failed, and the LAPD-Dorner incident proves it. The LAPD acted like American troops in Iraq: protect your own, dehumanize everyone else. Remember Tahrir Square? American security forces **guarding high-ranking U.S. officials** killed 17 innocent Iraqi civilians for nothing. But "we didn't lose one American," Blackwater bragged.

They have been trained and told they can’t tell the enemy from the innocent civilians. As a result, they bring the “preemptive war” down to the street level, and shoot first, fast, and often. Remember Haditha?

Soldiers and other killers for hire in Iraq and Afghanistan are carefully trained to stop thinking of their targets as human beings. Otherwise they'll flinch and hesitate when they need to kill. “If you ask yourself, ‘did he kiss his kids goodbye this morning,’ you’re through,” I remember one sniper saying. And I remember this one, too: “Sorry, The chick got in the way.”

Many LAPD and other police force members are veterans of those wars. Do you think they can forget that training? Turn it off like a switch? The LAPD-Dorner case has proven that they can't.
Now the LAPD shoots a 72-year-old grandmother - to protect their own! And her daughter – to protect their own! They can muster thousands of police, plus the firepower of a Marine brigade -- to protect their own! They shoot up trucks, burn down houses, shut down whole towns -- to protect their own!

You do that on a battlefield in the midst of an enemy. You **don't** do it in the midst of the community you are supposed to "serve and protect."

Instead of “serving and protecting” **us**, they shoot up the innocent public and kiss up to (oops, I’m sorry, they protect) their superiors – who will be sitting on their next promotion board, of course.

Government will always protect its own. But it won't protect you. It will just send a bureaucrat with a gun to your place later, to take a police report after you've been robbed, killed, or maimed, and the perp is long gone. For all practical purposes, they’re more like armed, unionized insurance adjusters whose fat lifetime pensions you'll be paying with your lifetime of taxes.

This is the lesson. Will we learn it? Or will we continue to worship those "heroes" just because they wear a uniform?

In my book, they've got to earn it. And that takes more than a badge and a sidearm

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/132330.html

Originally posted by Oliver North
not that I have seen

EDIT: my bad, apparently they claim they used pyrotechnic tear gas, the same type of thing that is responsible for the fire at WACO.

I googled that, just to see the specs of the gas; there are sites saying that while the LA PD does carry that kind of gas, it wasn't used against Dorner and that "conspiracy theorists" are just running with it.

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It's a cover up, the LAPD is the most corrupt racket in all of America.

Dorner either discovered something he shouldnt have, or he was no longer willing to keep something a secret.

Oh for heaven's sake... I'll move this to the conspiracy area if people get too tin-foil hat about this.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Oh for heaven's sake... I'll move this to the conspiracy area if people get too tin-foil hat about this.

Kidrock, long time no see, how is everything? Hows the family? Hope all is well! Please keep your loony conspiracies to yourself.

- Love Ushgarak

p.s I still think I should be made an honorary mod on these forums, for the love of god.

It's not personal, I just don't want this to turn into a "The LAPD deliberately locked a guy in a cabin and burned him alive for nefarious purposes" thread, which is where the style of things was starting to go. If it does start becoming about 'the guy who was silenced because he know too much', then the conspiracy area is certainly the place for it.

99 times out of 100, the mantra "Don't put down to malice that which can be ascribed to incompetence" applies to these sorts of situations.

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i dont think this really falls into the "tin foil hat" category.

this isnt exactly implausible, given the u.s. marshal's statement.
all that crap in the conspiracy forum is more of "omg this website thats profits from promoting conspiracy theories said obama's an alien lizard. its true! they even site other conspiracy sites as sources"