Voldemort vs. Ganondorf (Twilight Princess)

Started by The Scenario94 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
Anyone can volley that back. That doesn't prove anything.

😂

Prove anyone can, please.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Prove anyone can, please.
We see someone with another sword doing so thus proving the master sword showed no special property in doing so rather any sword durable enough to withstand the blast can reflect it back.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Specific magical energy and certain protections Dorf doesn't have access to here.

Back thirty or forty feet with armor on and them actively resisting you. That is far more impressive.

In the films wasn't Harry shielding Tommy's curses on the stairs(This is backed up by the books, too)? So that seems to work. And then again, ToP.

Says what, your assumptions?

Originally posted by BloodRain
In the films wasn't Harry shielding Tommy's curses on the stairs(This is backed up by the books, too)? So that seems to work. And then again, ToP.

Says what, your assumptions?

Does Dorf have access to Potter magic and spells ?

😂

Reality says so.

Just superior magic. Unless you believe a small shield charm is greater than a piece of the Triforce?

Reality? Reality states a creature (note how Im not saying a rock creature) of such size is far heavier then ten men, so much that throwing it 10ft is better than hitting them 50ft. Don't forget just how large Dangoro is.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Just superior magic. Unless you believe a small shield charm is greater than a piece of the Triforce?

Reality? Reality states a creature (note how Im not saying a rock creature) of such size is far heavier then ten men, so much that throwing it 10ft is better than hitting them 50ft. Don't forget just how large Dangoro is.

It is just a counter like knite to Superman. Other forces are more powerful but don't exploit Knians like that substance.

Link can't resist them actively resisting just lift them after they are neutralized.

The Gorons can't even knock back with the strength and power Sauron displayed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see someone with another sword doing so thus proving the master sword showed no special property in doing so rather any sword durable enough to withstand the blast can reflect it back.

Correction: We see Ganondorf do so. That's not anyone, that's the caster himself using the same sword he used to create the blast in the first place.

Try again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It is just a counter like knite to Superman. Other forces are more powerful but don't exploit Knians like that substance.

Link can't resist them actively resisting just lift them after they are neutralized.

The Gorons can't even knock back with the strength and power Sauron displayed.

Knite is a specific weakness due to it's tightly wound connection to Supes. Your run on the mill Shield Charm is not this to AK. (though I have the feeling there was a little miscommunication here where you think I'm talking about the Love protection)

Quan, you're talking about stopped a charge again. I'm talking about the strength to throw Dangoro 15 ft.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Does Dorf have access to Potter magic and spells ?

😂

Reality says so.

Well by potter standards, A wizard can deflect magic, Ganon, who is a wizard, has deflected magic. I bet if he wanted he could use potter spells if he knew them. Of course I have nothing to back this up except speculation. But its something to consider. Who's to say he can't do everything Voldermort can do after he sees his magic.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Correction: We see Ganondorf do so. That's not anyone, that's the caster himself using the same sword he used to create the blast in the first place.

Try again.

He does so with a sword. Another sword does so thus proving any half decent sword can reflect this crappy magic. Nothing more.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Knite is a specific weakness due to it's tightly wound connection to Supes. Your run on the mill Shield Charm is not this to AK. (though I have the feeling there was a little miscommunication here where you think I'm talking about the Love protection)

Quan, you're talking about stopped a charge again. I'm talking about the strength to throw Dangoro 15 ft.

It is a counter. Knite counters Supermans powers. Same thing. Knite isn't more powerful nor is the shield than the Ak.

As dead weight whereas Sauron knocked them back further with them resisting.

🙂

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Well by potter standards, A wizard can deflect magic, Ganon, who is a wizard, has deflected magic. I bet if he wanted he could use potter spells if he knew them. Of course I have nothing to back this up except speculation. But its something to consider. Who's to say he can't do everything Voldermort can do after he sees his magic.
Their magic operates differently and Dorf only reflected his one spell which Link can also deflect.

The fact he's never just mimicked other magic sans the light arrows etc.

Voldemort wins via a multitude of ways.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He does so with a sword. Another sword does so thus proving any half decent sword can reflect this crappy magic. Nothing more.

It's the same sword that created the blast, being used by Ganondorf.

Try again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It is a counter. Knite counters Supermans powers. Same thing. Knite isn't more powerful nor is the shield than the Ak.

As dead weight whereas Sauron knocked them back further with them resisting.

🙂

As you're more into comics than I, I would assume that you'd know /why/ its a counter. Unless you believe all counters are the same? And knowing this, as I know you do, tell me how a random spell a child casts connects to another spell.

If I lift a tank and you punch a guy across the room, who'd be stronger? Yes being dynamic with that distance gives him big bonus points, but you have to compare to to the sheer weight differences.

Originally posted by The Scenario
It's the same sword that created the blast, being used by Ganondorf.

Try again.

So both swords can reflect it and it can hurt both beings.

You have no point. 🙂

Originally posted by BloodRain
As you're more into comics than I, I would assume that you'd know /why/ its a counter. Unless you believe all counters are the same? And knowing this, as I know you do, tell me how a random spell a child casts connects to another spell.

If I lift a tank and you punch a guy across the room, who'd be stronger? Yes being dynamic with that distance gives him big bonus points, but you have to compare to to the sheer weight differences.

One just neutralizes you better due to your physiology. This has nothing to do with pure force. All you gamers can't see past pure force being the only thing that matters in the end.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So both swords can reflect it and it can hurt both beings.

You have no point. 🙂

Relevant: A sword bing used b ZELDA/GANNONDORF... their probably using their own power through the sword which characters have been seen doing before: Sages using TK with sword, Link with Great Spin.

Semi-Relevant: If we look at exterior sources like OoT, we see Gannon reflecting the same balls with his cape. Which leads to the assumption that he can put his power into most object. Of course this is highly inferior to the Master Sword as it is fuelled with the three fires of the old gods and blessed by Hylia/Zelda. (although exterior to the subject it is relevant in that the Master Sword and Gannon are the same the character, but in a different appearance.)

Irrelevant: Monkey with a mobile phone.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
[B]Relevant: A sword bing used b ZELDA/GANNONDORF... their probably using their own power through the sword which characters have been seen doing before: Sages using TK with sword, Link with Great Spin.

Semi-Relevant: If we look at exterior sources like OoT, we see Gannon reflecting the same balls with his cape. Which leads to the assumption that he can put his power into most object. Of course this is highly inferior to the Master Sword as it is fuelled with the three fires of the old gods and blessed by Hylia/Zelda. (although exterior to the subject it is relevant in that the Master Sword and Gannon are the same the character, but in a different appearance.)

Irrelevant: Monkey with a mobile phone. [/B]

Yes, showing two swords can reflect this specific bolt of magic. We see many other various magical powers in which Link cannot reflect save this slow moving bolt. So the point is these swords can't reflect any old magic in general just this bolt that can be reflected seemingly by any sword which times the strike correctly.

We are only looking at Tp.

Originally posted by quanchi112
One just neutralizes you better due to your physiology. This has nothing to do with pure force. All you gamers can't see past pure force being the only thing that matters in the end.
You can't cite the force difference and then complain when I cite the very dame difference.

Either we can note a difference, or we can't.

Originally posted by BloodRain
You can't cite the force difference and then complain when I cite the very dame difference.

Either we can note a difference, or we can't.

The force difference isn't the same as k-nite. That is the point.