KuRuPT Thanosi
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Originally posted by Arhael
Let's recap her feats.
Just 1 year prior to DE Luke fought C'baot and even got overpowered by him, while Mara resisted his combined lightning and TK.
She fought Lord Nyax together with Luke and Tahiri. His strength was such that he could knock Vong off feet with one swing and was driving Luke back. His speed was such that he blitzed Voxin, while for Jedi strike team killing them was a "routine work". His Force power was such that he nearly mind dominated all three and demonstrated far superior TK. And Mara performed as good as Luke against him.
Mara defeated Lumya without use of shoto. Luke was able to do the same only because of desire to avenge Mara.
As you see there are plenty of evidence proving that Mara's combat capabilities are close to Luke. Luke himself had opinion that Mara would kick Jacen's ass.
Hah! Are you implying that Luke's performance was hampered? All evidence suggests opposite.
Luke was angry in that fight. Should I remind you how angry Luke outskilled Vader? Or how anger empowers Force users in general and makes them much more dangerous combatats?
Jacen followed the kick with a high slash. Luke blocked and spun inside, landing an elbow smash to the temple that dropped Jacen to his knees. He brought his own knee up under Jacen's chin, hearing teeth crack-and relishing it. He parried a weak slash at his thighs, then drew his blade up diagonally where his nephew's chest should have been. - Luke took early advantage of his sneak attack and nearly killed Jacen right at the begining. How many characters would be able to sustain elbow to the temple? Add the knee smash into chin followed by lightsaber strike into chest and it becomes miraculous that Jacen survived at all.
Jacen barely recovered from previous attack and Luke does another lethal combo:
Jacen scrambled to his feet, barely bringing his weapon up in time to block a vicious downstroke. Luke landed a snap-kick to the stomach that lifted Jacen a meter off the deck, then followed it with a slash to the neck-
Luke struck again with his lightsaber, using both hands and putting all his strength into the attack, beating his nephew's guard down so far that Jacen's emerald blade bit into his own shoulder. - do you ever remember Luke trying to overpower someone with strength? Fight against Vader is perhaps the only example.
And yet another dirty trick from Luke:
"His blade met Jacen's in a shower of brilliant sparks. Luke freed one hand and drove a finger-strike at Jacen's eyes.
Jacen turned his head, but Luke's little finger scratched across something soft and bulbous. Jacen roared and stumbled away, shaking his head."
And another one:
"He landed an elbow and felt a bone in Jacen's face shatter."
Never in his life Luke fought so lethally. Never in his life he employed so many dirty tricks. Mara because of Ben almost killed Jacen. Luke fought for exactly the same reason, Ben's life depended on him. The assumption that he didn't fight at his best is simply unsupported.
So how exactly do you imagine Yoda beating Jacen? Luke did it through unarmed combat techniques, which he normally doesn't employ at all and still fight ended in stalemate. Yoda can't do same things cos of his physical limitations. Through pure saber skill? Yoda was unable to defeat Dooku on even ground. Sidious dropped lightsaber himself to prevent falling from platform, on even ground there is no way Sidious would get disarmed by Yoda. Luke is superior to both Dooku and Sidious and Caedus still badly battered him. That's sufficient enough to be above likes of Yoda and Windu. [/QUOTE]
Yet it has been argued by others on here that Anakin's anger didn't make im stonger against Kenobi... Yet you seem to but supporting such a notion.