Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You don't see how a suit of armor that can't stop a bullet might be ineffective against Wolverine? Yeah... I'm the dumb one.But you don't understand the comics you claim to have read either. There is no way POSSIBLE way you could and still believe that Slade is superior to Wolverine in anyway other than prep. Wolverine can support the weight of full elevator with one arm. He can upper cut a car into the air. He can climb a mountain with a grand piano on his back. He can lift 20 men up and run with them on his back through walls. Throw man half the length of a swimming pool underwater with enough force to crack concrete. He can brace his legs and stop a speeding pickup truck dead in its tracks. He can sprint faster than 180mph. All of Wolverine's physical attributes are WITHOUT QUESTION, superior to those of Slades. Deathstroke's feats don't stack up, this is not an matter of opinion it's an objective fact. Anyone who has a working understanding of both these characters can see that pretty clearly, but that is something you lack. You conceded many points in the last thread this was brought up, and you countered with "Well... I still think Slade wins." Your views can not be supported with facts or feats, the only thing you have is a confirmation bias that you don't have the credibility to put to one side.
FYI NamorSubby isn't smart, and neither are you.
Unless wolverine hurls his claws with the force of a well aimed bullet, no I don't see how its relevant.
Wolverine's feats against inanimate objects mean nothing. Has he ever hit a cl100 brick and made them bleed. I'm talking blunt force punches. Slade has, and that was before the Nth metal. I'm talkin in the 80's.
Originally posted by Vanguard
So he's had a bad showing against Roy and he still calls him the best. That should tell you something.
It tells me that tactics don't matter much in a fist fight, something you should have figured out with Nightwing beating him up pretty consistently for the last decade and a half.
If Wolverine and Slade were given a group of 20 human soldiers and tasked with capturing territory from an entrenched enemy, where both Slade and Logan were forbade from direct interference, limited to only devising a strategy and giving orders to their men, Slade would do better than Wolverine. That is the only scenario outside of onesided prep where he has any sort of advantage. Wolverine is just plan better than Deathstroke. He is noticeably faster. Noticeably stronger. Noticeably more skilled. He also heals exponentially faster on a logarithmic scale.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It tells me that tactics don't matter much in a fist fight, something you should have figured out with Nightwing beating him up pretty consistently for the last decade and a half.If Wolverine and Slade were given a group of 20 human soldiers and tasked with capturing territory from an entrenched enemy, where both Slade and Logan were forbade from direct interference, limited to only devising a strategy and giving orders to their men, Slade would do better than Wolverine. That is the only scenario outside of onesided prep where he has any sort of advantage. Wolverine is just plan better than Deathstroke. He is noticeably faster. Noticeably stronger. Noticeably more skilled. He also heals exponentially faster on a logarithmic scale.
I can see Im not going to get through, so I'll leave you with this. Because youre making outlandish claims.
Slades arsenal alone provides him with the opportunity to win over Wolverine. He carries grenades that put down Superman. He has a powerstaff that blows up helicopters and puts Beastboy in coma's on its highest setting. And you can never down play a greater tactical mind, that's how most battles are won. It's like I said, Foreman was noticeably stronger than Ali. But how did Ali win? Go look up rope a dope and then maybe you'll understand.
Originally posted by Vanguard
Unless wolverine hurls his claws with the force of a well aimed bullet, no I don't see how its relevant.Wolverine's feats against inanimate objects mean nothing. Has he ever hit a cl100 brick and made them bleed. I'm talking blunt force punches. Slade has, and that was before the Nth metal. I'm talkin in the 80's.
You don't see how its relevant because you are an idiot. That is well established at this junction.
Those aren't strength feats, those are striking feats. We differentiate between the two on this board, and yes Wolverine has punched class 100s and made them bleed. Virtually every street worth a damn has.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You don't see how its relevant because you are an idiot. That is well established at this junction.Those aren't strength feats, those are striking feats. We differentiate between the two on this board, and yes Wolverine has punched class 100s and made them bleed. Virtually every street worth a damn has.
You mentioned fist fight earlier. Striking isn't a part of fist fights? Are you reading your own statements?
Slade is a metahuman and always has been. You still haven't answered whether or not Wolverine has clocked a CL100 being and made them bleed. Slade's been doing that since the 80's.
Answer.......
Originally posted by Vanguard
I can see Im not going to get through, so I'll leave you with this. Because youre making outlandish claims.Slades arsenal alone provides him with the opportunity to win over Wolverine. He carries grenades that put down Superman. He has a powerstaff that blows up helicopters and puts Beastboy in coma's on its highest setting. And you can never down play a greater tactical mind, that's how most battles are won. It's like I said, Foreman was noticeably stronger than Ali. But how did Ali win? Go look up rope a dope and then maybe you'll understand.
Slade doesn't have a grenade that can put down Superman. What he has is a regular grenade that one time koed Superboy. Do you think Superboy can be koed by a regular grenade? No? It's an example of PIS, hell Robin was right beside him and he was still conscious. A grenade won't do shit to Wolverine. It's cute that you think blowing up a helicopter is the sort of damage that would have any effect on Wolverine. Wolverine eats rockets without batting an eyelid.
Ali was faster and more skilled than Foreman. Wolverine is faster, stronger and more skilled than Deathstroke.
Originally posted by Vanguard
You mentioned fist fight earlier. Striking isn't a part of fist fights? Are you reading your own statements?Slade is a metahuman and always has been. You still haven't answered whether or not Wolverine has clocked a CL100 being and made them bleed. Slade's been doing that since the 80's.
Answer.......
Striking feats aren't strength feats. They are striking feats, which are generally attributed to skill rather than brute strength. Which is why Captain America can punch out Rhino and the Hulk without being class 100. And why Wolverine can slug it out with Caliban, Hulk and Wendigo and they feel his punches and kicks. Wolverine's strength feats are better than Slade's, and his striking feats are as well (and that's ignoring Wolverine's pressure point feats which much better than Slade's)
I never answered? Read the post you just quoted, you mongoloid. facepalm
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Striking feats aren't strength feats. They are striking feats, which are generally attributed to skill rather than brute strength. Which is why Captain America can punch out Rhino and the Hulk without being class 100. And why Wolverine can slug it out with Caliban, Hulk and Wendigo and they feel his punches and kicks. Wolverine's strength feats are better than Slade's, and his striking feats are as well (and that's ignoring Wolverine's pressure point feats which much better than Slade's)I never answered? Read the post you just quoted, you mongoloid. facepalm
Slade made them bleed. He made them bleed. That takes tremendous strength.
And striking has nothing to do with strength right? Okay. If you say so.
Originally posted by Vanguard
Slade made them bleed. He made them bleed. That takes tremendous strength.And striking has nothing to do with strength right? Okay. If you say so.
Striking has very little to do with strength, even in the real world. Technique is more important than strength, and in comics technique defies all rational logic. Captain America isn't a class 100 because he punched out Rhino. He's a class 2. How do we know that? Because we've seen his strength feats, and it's pretty easy to quantify what strength level he is operating at. We are supposed to believe that his martial prowess is enough to justify him koing Rhino or Hulk... but it's not, so usually we ignore stuff like that outright as PIS. Wonder Woman jobbing to Slade doesn't make Slade a class 100 either. His striking feats aren't up to par with Wolverine's and neither are his strength feats.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Striking has very little to do with strength, even in the real world. Technique is more important than strength, and in comics technique defies all rational logic. Captain America isn't a class 100 because he punched out Rhino. He's a class 2. How do we know that? Because we've seen his strength feats, and it's pretty easy to quantify what strength level he is operating at. We are supposed to believe that his martial prowess is enough to justify him koing Rhino or Hulk... but it's not, so usually we ignore stuff like that outright as PIS. Wonder Woman jobbing to Slade doesn't make Slade a class 100 either. His striking feats aren't up to par with Wolverine's and neither are his strength feats.
Has Wolverine ever twisted steel like it's tin foil. Has he ever hit a Cl100 brick and made them bleed. Slade has done that twice. Has he been able to react fast enough to surprise someone like Superman and even Flash, Slade has done that also.
Don't make it a battle of feats. Cuz Slade wins there soundly.
Originally posted by Vanguard
Has Wolverine ever twisted steel like it's tin foil. Has he ever hit a Cl100 brick and made them bleed. Slade has done that twice. Has he been able to react fast enough to surprise someone like Superman and even Flash, Slade has done that also.Don't make it a battle of feats. Cuz Slade wins there soundly.
You think Slade can beat Wolverine in a feat battle?
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Yes. Multiple times. Wolverine has also never been captured by the Chain Gang and been unable to break the steel bars, Slade has.
Slade hitting the Flash as nothing to do with speed. He predicts where Flash is going to be, and attacks there... and Flash becomes an idiot so he runs to shit. Same way Batman has managed to tag Flashes. Wolverine has done the same thing to Speed Demon. He has also tagged Gladiator, Living Laser and Northstar.
Originally posted by Vanguardyou think slade could beat Logan? ***** please
Has Wolverine ever twisted steel like it's tin foil. Has he ever hit a Cl100 brick and made them bleed. Slade has done that twice. Has he been able to react fast enough to surprise someone like Superman and even Flash, Slade has done that also.Don't make it a battle of feats. Cuz Slade wins there soundly.
Originally posted by iscaremonkeys
you think slade could beat Logan? ***** please
Get off Wolverine's ****. In a popularity contest he wins hands down. Marvel has greater exposure.
But if you say that at least with prep Deathstroke doesn't win. You're lying. But just as Srank admitted, Slades ability to predict what's going to happen is paramount in fights. That's how he was able to get the jump on Flash. Both of you are making better arguments for Slade than for Logan, and it's based on things that Deathstroke has done.
And some anonymous dinosaur jobbing to Logan; goes right back to what I was saying about characters having great feats against inanimate objects.
On another board some dood was trying to say Rorschach could beat Deathstroke because he broke a toilet with one of his kicks. I'm almost ready to put a lot of you Logan supporters on his bus.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You think Slade can beat Wolverine in a feat battle?😆
Yes. Multiple times. Wolverine has also never been captured by the Chain Gang and been unable to break the steel bars, Slade has.
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I'm talking about putting current Nth metal armor wearing slade twisting steel. Not pre 52. Current Slade is better than before. Especially in terms of durability and strength.
Here's Slade lopping the wing off a plane. I'd like to see current Wolverine pull that off in one stroke. His claws probly aren't even long enough, his little arms probably don't reach that far.
Originally posted by Vanguard
Get off Wolverine's ****. In a popularity contest he wins hands down. Marvel has greater exposure.But if you say that at least with prep Deathstroke doesn't win. You're lying. But just as Srank admitted, Slades ability to predict what's going to happen is paramount in fights. That's how he was able to get the jump on Flash. Both of you are making better arguments for Slade than for Logan, and it's based on things that Deathstroke has done.
And some anonymous dinosaur jobbing to Logan; goes right back to what I was saying about characters having great feats against inanimate objects.
On another board some dood was trying to say Rorschach could beat Deathstroke because he broke a toilet with one of his kicks. I'm almost ready to put a lot of you Logan supporters on his bus.
I completely hate Logan, that said he is way way beyond flash in skills and his stats are much higher than Slade's...
Slade is Good and prep could make them much closer in a fight,
BTW this isn't a Logan thread
