Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Relax! I am entitled to have some fun sometimes, I believe.On a serious note, you need to evolve in your thinking about TOR era powerhouses.
Star Wars is a dynamic world, my peer; filled with surprises. Otherwise, it will be a boring subject.
Their is no reason to underestimate Satele's capabiliites due to the reason that she could not contend with Malgus in a lightsaber duel. Malgus is extremely potent with a lightsaber; he packs lot of brutish strength and sufficient skill to overwhelm competent battlemasters, let alone lesser martial opponents.
If Satele can block lightsaber strike with bare hands; possibilities for her are enormous in near death like situations. Therefore, it is certainly possible that her clash with Sidious may end up in a stalemate. Not to forget that Satele packs enormous strength as well as apparent from her tree feat during a duel.
And we have seen first hand that Sidious isn't the top duelist.
I am well aware Satele is powerful. Here's the thing though. As far as I'm concerned powerscaling wise. Sidious even as of ROTS is a top tier force user above all of TOR. Viitate is a top tier force user above everyone else in TOR.
Here's the difference between TOR and the PT.
In the PT Sidious isn't alone; Mace Windu, Dooku, and Yoda are all able to contend with him.
In TOR even other powerhouses like Revan, Satele, and Malgus are weaker than he is by a good degree. Only the Hero of Tython can really contend with him as stated multiple times in canon.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
I am well aware Satele is powerful. Here's the thing though. As far as I'm concerned powerscaling wise. Sidious even as of ROTS is a top tier force user above all of TOR.
Their are some extreme bad@sses in TOR era who may be tougher then even Plagueis.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Viitate is a top tier force user above everyone else in TOR.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Here's the difference between TOR and the PT.In the PT Sidious isn't alone; Mace Windu, Dooku, and Yoda are all able to contend with him.
In TOR even other powerhouses like Revan, Satele, and Malgus are weaker than he is by a good degree. Only the Hero of Tython can really contend with him as stated multiple times in canon.
All of these guys are insanely powerful.
Also, Revan, Satele and Malgus are also among the ELITES in the mythos.
Originally posted by axel_jovan
Hero of Tython defeated Sidious.. 😱
However, Hero of Tython have defeated master swordsmen and even struck down a Voice of the Emperor. He is exceptionally skilled in the arts of lightsaber combat.
Don't assume that only individuals in PT or later eras could be great duelists but not in previous eras.
Originally posted by ares834
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Warlord and master of the dark side, Darth Marr is the most senior member of the Dark Council. When Marr speaks, he commands the attention of the entire Dark Council with intimidating authority and stern wisdom. (Star Wars The Old Republic Encyclopedia)
Tales spread through the Republic of the masked Dark Council member who routed whole armies and deflected assaults more thoroughly than any planetary shield. (Star Wars The Old Republic Encyclopedia)
Originally posted by ares834
Why would I be speechless? He is a "warlord" and a "master of the dark side"... Yawn.As for the rest I point to one key word: tales. Get back to me once Marr does something.
In case of feats based logic; Darth Jadus (a peer of Darth Marr) was capable of performing extraordinary ones. And yet, it is being argued that Darth Marr is more powerful.
Originally posted by ares834
I'd offer a counter argument if an actual argument was presented. But it's clear I'm not getting one here.
Darth Marr has lasted several decades in a Council where some don't even last a month. He is so adept in dark arts that he has been labelled as a master of the dark side. He is also extremely proficient in the use of lightsaber. He fears nothing and he has routed whole armies as per the tales that have spread within the Republic ranks. Among his peers are individuals such as Darth Jadus who can match Nihilus in feats and yet Darth Marr is the most feared member of the Council.