Grant Morrison's Multiversity

Originally posted by leonidas
i assume we are to assume that the two-faced and the quest for the artifacts was instigated by the gentry, right? and i presume the society book that followed the first multiversity issue was intended to be a 'comic' book warning to other comic characters--immortal man's reality is a 'comic' in some alternate world and that world's heroes are supposed to read it and realize it was an ACTUAL warning? and do you assume immortal man's world....died when uotan was summoned at the end?

all the meta text is cool, but trying to summarize it and really understand what is happening is a wee bit challenging.....

Tbh, I think Multiversity is an event that won't fully 'click' until it has concluded, and we are free to sit down to read all of the issues sequentially in one sitting. You're definitely not going to catch/remember every little detail in a series with this much depth the first time around... Especially with the issues scattered monthly like they are.

I dig this concept tremendously. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
"The Society of Super-Heroes" book was definitely intended as a warning to the alternate worlds... We actually saw characters reading it in "The Just"(it was one of the books that made Batman understand the threat at hand):
http://i.imgur.com/6kxnUrC.jpg
And yeah, I presume Immortal Man's world was destroyed upon Nix being awakened.

Tbh, I think Multiversity is an event that won't fully 'click' until it has concluded, and we are free to sit down to read all of the issues sequentially in one sitting. You're definitely not going to catch/remember every little detail in a series with this much depth the first time around... Especially with the issues scattered monthly like they are.

I dig this concept tremendously. 👆

i just dl'd the just and will read it later today. the concept is very cool. i'm really curious about the gentry and who they are. hopefully we get some cool story for them and why they are apparently so utterly uber. the concept of nix is interesting. he seems to have become a villain as of the first issue. since he is a villain, i'm really curious just who is going to be powerful enough to overcome not only him, but the rest of the gentry as well. i guess as per infinite crisis, they will still use the monitor tech somehow. maybe nix or the other monitors have a contingency plan in case nix fell? i mean honestly, one random artifact--the eternal key--let two-faced destroy an entire reality. like i said, i assume the gentry are behind the villains and the artifacts that are being uncovered but i wonder why? a distraction is what lex said, but a distraction to draw away from what?

did you notice that each of the multiversity books are #1's? does that mean each will have a mini-series itself? so many questions! 😂 looking forward to the answers....

I'm beginning to think that maybe the main threat (or one of them) that the Gentry will pose in this series is an attack on our very own Earth/universe. It seems that while all the other one-shots act as windows into the realities of other universes, the seventh one-shot, Ultraa Comics, is being disguised as a window into our reality but is actually rather a weapon against it and possibly a member of the Gentry?

The idea being presented so far is that there are some deadly hypnotic messages hidden within the story and that it's quite literally haunted (so maybe the spirit of one of the Gentry is tied to it) and that we shouldn't buy/read it. If we go back to the concept of the hypersigil, it could possibly represent a reality for our universe that the Gentry wish to create, and that only by reading it can we give it power over our reality.

It'll be interesting to see how such a threat would be resolved, but if Grant Morrison is going fully meta with this could it possibly end up being a commentary on comicbook sales/readership (and far less likely, on digital comics or comic piracy)?

Or what if the Gentry end up winning? If Grant Morrison is going with the hypersigil concept, it wouldn't have to completely resemble our universe but simply model it in some way, so maybe if we're presented with a really bleak reality, it might simply be a commentary about our own present day society and aspects of it that are wrong/messed up.

Probably won't be that at all but it'll be really interesting to see what Grant Morrison does with this. He describes the seventh one-shot as "the most advanced thing I've ever done. I'm so excited about this. It's just taking something that used to be done in comics and captions that they don't do anymore and turning it into a technique, a weapon, but beyond that I don't want to say. It's a haunted comic book, actually, it's the most frightening thing anyone will ever read. It's actually haunted—if you read this thing, you'll become possessed."

How do people rate/rank the issues so far out of curiosity? For me:

Opening issue - 9.5
S.O.S. - 7.6
The Just - 8.4

Originally posted by appletonia
I'm beginning to think that maybe the main threat (or one of them) that the Gentry will pose in this series is an attack on our very own Earth/universe. It seems that while all the other one-shots act as windows into the realities of other universes, the seventh one-shot, Ultraa Comics, is being disguised as a window into our reality but is actually rather a weapon against it and possibly a member of the Gentry?

Originally posted by appletonia
He describes the seventh one-shot as "the most advanced thing I've ever done. I'm so excited about this. It's just taking something that used to be done in comics and captions that they don't do anymore and turning it into a technique, a weapon, but beyond that I don't want to say. It's a haunted comic book, actually, it's the most frightening thing anyone will ever read. It's actually haunted—if you read this thing, you'll become possessed."

Originally posted by appletonia
How do people rate/rank the issues so far out of curiosity? For me:

Opening issue - 9.5
S.O.S. - 7.6
The Just - 8.4

I'm trying to reserve higher ratings because I have a feeling that subsequent issues will blow these out of the water.

Multiversity #1= 10
SOS= 8
Just= 7

so, i'm still interested, and confused, with regards to how fight for the multiverse ties into multiversity.... SPOILERS:

the heroes in FftM just found nix on nil and actually....found a way to use his tech that even he couldn't. not sure how i feel about that exactly. i thought nix was the all-knowing sort, but guess not. but still--i thought nix had long ago become one of the gentry?? how the hell is he still in the overvoid?? i really can't figure out how this series ties into the main multiversity series at all. brainiac seemed like the big villain at the end of the FftM arc, but i still don't have any idea how he's involved on a more macroscopic level (ie--in relation to the gentry and the comic book and all that....) keeping fingers crossed that this all comes together in the end.

ps--gaslit luthor is great.... lol and he's gonna be a BIG problem at some point in the futire.... was it gaslit batman who fought dracula once upon a time in a graphic novel? i think it was called red rain. i have it somewhere but i'm not sure where. i recall absolutely loving that story....

Tbh I'm not sure that FFTM will even tie-into Multiversity. Remember, Morrison has been working on Multiversity for YEARS now--FFTM definitely wasn't something he would have considered while writing it. /shrug

FFTM is just a digital comic. All the digital comics are in their own continuity. Like Injustice.

BTW, looks like there is no end in site for FFTM. It's still continuing in January.

Originally posted by Golgo13
FFTM is just a digital comic. All the digital comics are in their own continuity. Like Injustice.

Originally posted by Galan007
Injustice is centered in a single universe, though--we know it's non-canon to mainstream DC. Conversely, FFTM involves the entire multiverse--so if you're saying that FFTM exists entirely within its own continuity(ie. a divergent multiverse), then it makes DC-creation no less than a megaverse these days...

Yeah, but the universes that are involved haven't been mentioned in Morrison's map of his Multiverse, correct?

Originally posted by Golgo13
Yeah, but the universes that are involved haven't been mentioned in Morrison's map of his Multiverse, correct?

so you're thinking that this fight for the multiverse has nothing to do with multiversity? hmm, seems like coincidental timing then.... i just assumed the 2 were connected. nix talking about multiversal threats? gotta say they seem tied together to me. if not, then it's really kinda....dumb, that nix has made an appearance. the series should then be set in the past, unless it was just one of his 52 doubles that the gentry captured....? that really demeans the fact that he turned though. if the 2 series' are not related, then the timing is pretty damn confusing imo....

Isn't FFTM made because of the VIDEO GAME that came out?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_Crisis_%28video_game%29

Look at the featured universes. Seems to go hand and hand with the digital comic.

The following universes are featured in this game:

Prime Earth (Earth-0): This world is the keystone that the Multiverse resides on.

Arcane Earth (Earth-13): A world where the Shadow League (a group of twisted sorcerers) lusted for control over Earth where one of their plans ended up extinguishing their sun. Even though the sun was reignited, the Earth was forever altered by the magic that is loose on Earth.

Atomic Earth (Earth-17): A world where atomic attacks during the Cold War have vaporized 97% of all life on Earth. Although the survivors hoped that the Earth would heal, their scars from the war wouldn't.

Gaslight Earth (Earth-19): A Victorian era-themed world where society was revolutionized through steam technology.

Mecha Earth (Earth-44): A technology-enhanced world where there were no heroes until a group of scientists called the Justice Consortium created them.

Nightmare Earth (Earth-43): A world in which heroes and villains were twisted into monsters.

Originally posted by leonidas
so you're thinking that this fight for the multiverse has nothing to do with multiversity? hmm, seems like coincidental timing then.... i just assumed the 2 were connected. nix talking about multiversal threats? gotta say they seem tied together to me. if not, then it's really kinda....dumb, that nix has made an appearance. the series should then be set in the past, unless it was just one of his 52 doubles that the gentry captured....? that really demeans the fact that he turned though. if the 2 series' are not related, then the timing is pretty damn confusing imo....

52 doubles?

yeah, nix split himself into 52 'other selves', one for each universe. all of them died except for the one on nil.

maybe i'm way off for thinking the 2 series' are linked. the timing just seemed....perfect and the fact that both were dealing with multiversal threats? if they really aren't linked at all it just seems pretty odd given the similarities in the problems being faced. i just assumed the gentry was behind events in FftM as i just assumed (perhaps incorrectly apparently) the 52 in the orrery were the same. if they are different that's....weird, as both are dealing with the multiverse. hrm.

We might be dealing with multiple multiverses, then

http://rikdad.blogspot.in/2014/11/multiversity-message.html

Some very good interpretations IMO. I like this part.

In Action #17, Superdoom describes itself to Superman as, "An unstoppable killer franchise from a parallel reality. A thought that gets bigger the more you think of it. The thought of a Superman better than you! The thought of a bigger Superman. A stronger, more ruthless Superman. … powered by a simple corporate directive: Annihilate the competition! … Your replacement."

Damn, Morrison is a genius.

Jim Lee joins Morrison on Multiversity.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=57128