The Gaurdians of the Galaxy Vs The X-Men

Originally posted by 753
yeah wolverine has like 50 of these feats killing off thousands of fodder ninjas, modern soldiers, demons, space aliens, dinausaurs, zombies, whatever

considering the "inverse law" of henchmen is a plot device anyways, I'm sure he could.

like, I'm amazed you aren't using the "he murdered thanos" feat instead of the "he killed a bunch of fodder to get to that feat" feat

Originally posted by Oliver North
considering the "inverse law" of henchmen is a plot device anyways, I'm sure he could.

like, I'm amazed you aren't using the "he murdered thanos" feat instead of the "he killed a bunch of fodder to get to that feat" feat

most impressive feat of beast was taking out danger, people are really overestimating him here

when i get home ill show u guys some scans...

Saying Drax doesn't beat him easily is not overestimating Beast.

Anyone who wants to provide the feats that make the following statement (the one that initiated this) incorrect are welcome to:

Originally posted by Oliver North
Drax is a shadow of his former self and has very few feats that would give him a majority against Beast

I may not keep up on X-teams, but I did just scour GotG v2 this weekend. Unless I missed something, current Drax is almost entirely unproven in a forum fight scenario. His measurable feats are few and far between.

Originally posted by Oliver North
Saying Drax doesn't beat him easily is not overestimating Beast.

Anyone who wants to provide the feats that make the following statement (the one that initiated this) incorrect are welcome to:

I may not keep up on X-teams, but I did just scour GotG v2 this weekend. Unless I missed something, current Drax is almost entirely unproven in a forum fight scenario. His measurable feats are few and far between.

blood brothers and the annhi horde sums it up

so fodder and a pair of dumb bricks?

I'm convinced...

Originally posted by Oliver North
so fodder and a pair of dumb bricks?

I'm convinced...

greater than beasts feats combined

beast is weak sure, but it doesnt matter, xmen have cyke and gambit as their nest best things after angel and iceman. guardians have drax, rocket racoon and groot after nova. **** gamorra. guardians lack reach and power

Originally posted by Oliver North
Saying Drax doesn't beat him easily is not overestimating Beast.
I did just scour GotG v2 this weekend. Unless I missed something, current Drax is almost entirely unproven in a forum fight scenario.

Kills then punks Lunatik. He's supposed to be a tough sob and was a Lobo analogue (not quite)

Kills one of the Blood Brothers (Very strong bricks).
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Drax4of4-20-21_zps7e03ada2.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Drax4of4-22_zpsea87dc60.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Drax4of4-24_zps2a210d79.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Drax4of4-25_zps3d4c6d47.jpg

This is what he does to a Universal Church of Truth Cardinal. They are quite powerful as shown in the scans...
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/GOTG-002_zpsf8e47e1c.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/GOTG-003_zps9125142b.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/GOTG-004_zpsaa2d5365.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/GOTG-005_zps8400df81.jpg

Peeps can say fodder all they want, but this is pretty frukkin impressive. He not only wades through bug after bug, he takes out a queen in the process.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Annihilation3-019_zpsbd9e1251.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Annihilation3-020_zps6cd2b636.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Annihilation4-003_zpse88c45d1.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Annihilation4-004_zps76bedee5.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Annihilation4-012_zps6585466f.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Annihilation4-013_zps8da076ce.jpg

How about absolutely pwning 3 (a high class brick, energy user, and martial arts master) of the Luminals (Avengers' equivalent of Xarth Three). Uses superior martial skills, nerve strikes, and just plain 'ol arse kickin abilities.

U really missed the boat on Drax my friend...toot

more to come, but ya... we'll talk about that fodder, Lunatik he kills in a surprise attack, he kills a Blood Brother when they are far apart (their powers are lessened the further apart they are) and those GotG scans are against a bunch of no-names...

/sigh

[ugh, I seriously can't believe I'm wasting my night doing this]

ok, so, while I'm still looking through GotG and trying to track down some of the Annihilation releases, lets talk about the "feat" Drax has killing "hundreds, maybe thousands" of fodder.

So, here it is, from Annihilation 4:

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248971/Annihilation4fodderb.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248972/Annihilation4fodderc.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248973/Annihilation4fodderd.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248974/Annihilation4foddere.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248975/Annihilation4fodderf.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248976/Annihilation4fodderg.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248977/Annihilation4fodderh.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248978/Annihilation4fodderi.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248979/Annihilation4fodderj.jpg.html

Things to note:

- Drax says straight away that the enemies are docile because, as a hive mind, they don't think for themselves. The fact the battle is over and the good guys have retreated means Drax's enemies are not aware of his presence, and because they lack will, they are essentially docile. While it is true that Drax may have killed "hundreds if not thousands", he killed "hundreds if not thousands" of fodder enemies who were not even fighting back.
-The same thing happens when he kills the Queen. Sure, Drax shows good battle sense to rush her straight away, but he never has to fight the majority of the fodder in the scene. In fact, once the queen is dead, the vast majority of his enemies stop fighting him. In both of these cases this really isn't a matter up for debate, it is said directly, by Drax, on panel.
-The final part of the feat, Drax has some indeterminate amp because he is close to Thanos. He skips fighting the fodder and rushes straight to Thanos, who he kills without a fight. The highest point of this "feat" is when he resists Moondragon's TP attack, and he does it while amped, so it is hardly demonstrative of anything.

Now, lets see what happens when Drax fights these same enemies, though when they aren't passive, from Annihilation 1:

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248980/annh1a.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248981/annh1b.jpg.html

As we see here, Drax is very quickly overwhelmed, and only saved because Nova Prime decides to show up and save him.

I know I know, I'm supposed to be looking up Beast feats, but I don't collect X-titles like I should, and really, I'm certainly not going to let such inanity stand in terms of what is being passed off as "high end" Drax feats.

There are good Drax feats, and I think the character is supposed to be much more powerful than Beast. In a forum fight, where you need evidence to back up your claims, current Drax does not have a lot to go by.

Beast has 5000+ appearances though, so I'll probably finish up a couple more posts about current Drax before I get to that honestly... The highest feats I have from him atm are using gadgets against Thanos in Thanos Imperative. If he had that gear in this fight (namely the disintigrator disk), he would be much more of a threat, but it is hardly standard gear for him.

[alright, peace, there is a nice bowl with my name on it]

Originally posted by Oliver North
more to come, but ya... we'll talk about that fodder, Lunatik he kills in a surprise attack, he kills a Blood Brother when they are far apart (their powers are lessened the further apart they are) and those GotG scans are against a bunch of no-names...

/sigh

Funny thing is Gam Gam can prolly replicate what drax did and maybe do it better... I just think ure underestimating this bunch... 😕

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Aww come on dude. U gotta give credit where credit is due. If ure telling me beast can do better to those guys than what Drax did, tha's just crazee talk. 🙁

Funny thing is Gam Gam can prolly replicate what drax did and maybe do it better... I just think ure underestimating this bunch... 😕

Originally posted by Oliver North
There are good Drax feats, and I think the character is supposed to be much more powerful than Beast. [b]In a forum fight, where you need evidence to back up your claims, current Drax does not have a lot to go by. [/B]

Originally posted by Oliver North
[ugh, I seriously can't believe I'm wasting my night doing this]

ok, so, while I'm still looking through GotG and trying to track down some of the Annihilation releases, lets talk about the "feat" Drax has killing "hundreds, maybe thousands" of fodder.

So, here it is, from Annihilation 4:

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248971/Annihilation4fodderb.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248972/Annihilation4fodderc.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248973/Annihilation4fodderd.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248974/Annihilation4foddere.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248975/Annihilation4fodderf.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248976/Annihilation4fodderg.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248977/Annihilation4fodderh.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248978/Annihilation4fodderi.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248979/Annihilation4fodderj.jpg.html

Things to note:

- Drax says straight away that the enemies are docile because, as a hive mind, they don't think for themselves. The fact the battle is over and the good guys have retreated means Drax's enemies are not aware of his presence, and because they lack will, they are essentially docile. While it is true that Drax may have killed "hundreds if not thousands", he killed "hundreds if not thousands" of fodder enemies who were not even fighting back.
-The same thing happens when he kills the Queen. Sure, Drax shows good battle sense to rush her straight away, but he never has to fight the majority of the fodder in the scene. In fact, once the queen is dead, the vast majority of his enemies stop fighting him. In both of these cases this really isn't a matter up for debate, it is said directly, by Drax, on panel.
-The final part of the feat, Drax has some indeterminate amp because he is close to Thanos. He skips fighting the fodder and rushes straight to Thanos, who he kills without a fight. The highest point of this "feat" is when he resists Moondragon's TP attack, and he does it while amped, so it is hardly demonstrative of anything.

Now, lets see what happens when Drax fights these same enemies, though when they aren't passive, from Annihilation 1:

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248980/annh1a.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248981/annh1b.jpg.html

As we see here, Drax is very quickly overwhelmed, and only saved because Nova Prime decides to show up and save him.

I know I know, I'm supposed to be looking up Beast feats, but I don't collect X-titles like I should, and really, I'm certainly not going to let such inanity stand in terms of what is being passed off as "high end" Drax feats.

There are good Drax feats, and I think the character is supposed to be much more powerful than Beast. [b]In a forum fight, where you need evidence to back up your claims, current Drax does not have a lot to go by.
[/B]

it states, on panel, that the bugs didn't have the free will to attack him.

Originally posted by Oliver North
it states, on panel, that the bugs didn't have the free will to attack him.

so, you can't see where it says they weren't attacking him, but even if it did, the on panel natration is wrong?

Originally posted by Oliver North
so, you can't see where it says they weren't attacking him, but even if it did, [b]the on panel natration is wrong? [/B]