^ What you're doing is moving the goalposts and equivocating over whether or not the black berserkers represent an extension of Gorr's power. They do. They come from him directly. They respond to his summons. There can be hundreds of them at a time while Gorr gleefully tortures gods elsewhere. They can morph into a giant worm and accompany him in a fight.
Gorr was the one who murdered the gods across the cosmos. If you have evidence he had outside help or evidence that the black berserkers aren't a part of him, then post it.
Originally posted by ares834
How does that contradict anything I said?What I'm questioning is his ability to create an army like that quickly.
Originally posted by ODG
^ What you're doing is moving the goalposts and equivocating over whether or not the black berserkers represent an extension of Gorr's power. They do. They come from him directly. They respond to his summons. There can be hundreds of them at a time while Gorr gleefully tortures gods elsewhere. They can morph into a giant worm and accompany him in a fight.Gorr was the one who murdered the gods across the cosmos. If you have evidence he had outside help or evidence that the black berserkers aren't a part of him, then post it.
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Right at the beginning of the debate I was questioning if Gorr himself did or his "hounds". I'm not moving the goalpost at all.
Originally posted by ares834
It's off panel. We don't how it went down. Who knows if he did it himself or used his hounds, etc...
I never denied that they weren't an extension of his power. However, they are of little to no consequence to Gorr's personal combat ability.
Perhaps, I read celeyhyga17 post wrong, but I beleived he was using Gorr butchering of all these gods as a combat feat. My point has always been we don't know how they fights went. And using them as evidence that Gorr would stomp these three characters is faulty.
So you focus on the wording rather than the content.
Anyway, if Gorr has his army of them in this thread than yes, Gorr stomps. But, I'm assuming that the Gorr in this thread does not. He can create them sure, but (in the post you quoted earlier) I question his ability to create an army of them quickly.
Originally posted by ares834You typed a sentence that has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Congratulations.
So you focus on the wording rather than the content.
Originally posted by ares834The army is Gorr. If you have evidence that the black berserkers don't actually emerge out of Gorr's body, and are pieces of him, and respond to his thoughts, and fuel him directly when killing gods elsewhere, post it. Because there's evidence of all of this. And it makes your attempted parsing fruitless.
Anyway, if Gorr has his army of them in this thread than yes, Gorr stomps. But, I'm assuming that the Gorr in this thread does not. He can create them sure, but (in the post you quoted earlier) I question his ability to create an army of them quickly.
Originally posted by ODG
You typed a sentence that has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Congratulations.
Thanks! That's exactly the reply I was looking for to your statement earlier.
Originally posted by ODG
The army is Gorr. If you have evidence that the black berserkers don't actually emerge out of Gorr's body, and are pieces of him, and respond to his thoughts, and fuel him directly when killing gods elsewhere, post it. Because there's evidence of all of this. And it makes your attempted parsing fruitless.
Starwman. I've not denied that the beserkers are a part of Gorr's weapon.
If he has them all in this thread than he stomps. My assumption was that he doesn't.
^ So he only has part of his weapon in this thread. That was your assumption. Where do you think that army of hundreds of black berserkers that was sieging future Asgard went to when they were summoned away? They went straight to and re-merged directly with Gorr:
Because they are literally a part of him:
Originally posted by ares834So what, again, is the reason you thought Gorr only had part of his powers here again?
I've not denied that the beserkers are a part of Gorr's weapon.
Originally posted by ODG
^ So he only has part of his weapon in this thread. That was your assumption. Where do you think that army of hundreds of black berserkers that was sieging future Asgard went to when they were summoned away? They went straight to and re-merged directly with Gorr:
Interesting. I did not realize they reemerged with him. It does imply he can summon them all at once. In that, I was wrong.
But all of this still doesn't change my original point: we don't know how Gorr killed many of the gods. Was it direct combat, assassination, etc..
Originally posted by Mindset
In ares' defense, he hasn't read the comics.
And yet, I provided a direct quote as evidence. Hard to do that if I've never read them.
Originally posted by ares834
Interesting. I did not realize they reemerged with him. It does imply he can summon them all at once. In that, I was wrong.But all of this still doesn't change my original point: we don't know how Gorr killed many of the gods. Was it direct combat, assassination, etc..
And yet, I provided a direct quote as evidence. Hard to do that if I've never read them.
Originally posted by Mindset
I agree, that was impressive.You're one tricky fella.
What can I say, I'm a talented individual.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
You told me earlier you've read both arcs. How did you not know that they were part of him and that he can easily merge back to him?
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I read comics, I don't tend to analyze them and remember every little detail. And, I knew they were a part of his weapon, I didn't realize they all remerged with him.
Originally posted by ares834
I read comics, I don't tend to analyze them and remember every little detail. And, I knew they were a part of his weapon, I didn't realize they all remerged with him.
