Gambit vs Puck

Started by -K-M-6 pages

Speed alone? No, but with all of Puck's other stats? it's Puck that has the advantage, not Gambit. There is not one single stat Gambit is superior in other then energy projection. Nothing new Puck has faced before.

Originally posted by -K-M-

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Let's break it down -
Strength = Puck
Agility = Comparable, but slight edge to Puck
Speed = Puck
Durability = Puck
Experience = Puck
Fighting Skill = Puck
Energy Projection = Gambit
Stamina = Puck

Cool.

Gambit blows him up.

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Originally posted by Mindset
Cool.

Gambit blows him up.

Just like he did Captain America? 😱

Again Puck is invulnerable and nearly indestructible (and has every other advantage as well), but alas people are neglecting that little detail. What happened with the Captain America fight would happen here.

Cap shouldn't have gotten back up from that......but it was Cap's aura at its finest.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Just like he did Captain America? 😱

Again Puck is invulnerable and nearly indestructible (and has every other advantage as well), but alas people are neglecting that little detail. What happened with the Captain America fight would happen here.

Cap has better durability feats than Puck.

Another bio mentions...."Gambit's ability to tap energy also grants him near superhuman agility and dexterity...."

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/Page012_zpsf1ef544e.jpg

😖hifty:

[Disclaimer: I do think Gambit has low level of superhuman agility, just not on the same level of Puck]

Originally posted by Mindset
Cap has better durability feats than Puck.

awwwww the sound of tears, muahaha.

Puck's durability > Captain America's durability.

puck would win if he could get close enough. i saw some of the spiral stuff--she was certainly weakened in the series. it was shown in issue 3 that mojo removed her dimension hopping powers. seems he did more than that though. she has used no spells, she even needs to move her arms to cast a teleportation. that's a FAR cry from the spiral who effortlessly depowered the full avengers roster and has transformed the x-men into babies and even into half cyborg's with a gesture.

Originally posted by leonidas
puck would win if he could get close enough.

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Originally posted by leonidas
i saw some of the spiral stuff--she was certainly weakened in the series. it was shown in issue 3 that mojo removed her dimension hopping powers. seems he did more than that though. she has used no spells, she even needs to move her arms to cast a teleportation. that's a FAR cry from the spiral who effortlessly depowered the full avengers roster and has transformed the x-men into babies and even into half cyborg's with a gesture.

Just because we haven't seen her use magic yet doesn't mean she won't. Still early in the series. Hell, their not even a team yet (actually might drop the series soon, not really liking it). Can she be weaker? Yeah it's definitely possible. The spiral instances ONLY came up because one user said Spiral humiliated Puck. Would you agree with that?

Originally posted by -K-M-

Puck's durability > Captain America's durability.
Not based on feats, playboy.

Originally posted by Mindset
Not based on feats, playboy.

Oh? When has Cap survived a fall taller then the CN Tower, and in two crossovers with the Avengers Puck was the invulnerable one taking blasts from the Combine? The same blasts which would have killed Cap

Oh and another instance Captain America told Puck and Diamond Lil to act as a shield for the Avengers (which included protecting Captain America) from alien blasts 😉

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t390466.html

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t489354.html

Originally posted by -K-M-
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t489354.html
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Concession accepted.

Originally posted by Mindset
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Concession accepted.

Why are you still using your Commodore 64? also will you get on ICQ already.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Yes. That was directly stated in his handbooks (as I said earlier).
Originally posted by -K-M-
Yes. One handbook stated he could "move at excess of 80 mph" and another at 40mph

Since when are handbooks used as conclusive evidence of abilities?

Originally posted by -K-M-
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Just because we haven't seen her use magic yet doesn't mean she won't. Still early in the series. Hell, their not even a team yet (actually might drop the series soon, not really liking it). Can she be weaker? Yeah it's definitely possible. The spiral instances ONLY came up because one user said Spiral humiliated Puck. Would you agree with that?

would i agree she humiliated him? no, not at all. the encounter was too brief to even call it a fight and what there was was pretty inconclusive imo, but were she at her normal displayed power levels her ability to teleport would be vastly better. i could post scans but then i'd have to find them. her combat teleportation is second to none under optimal conditions though. she tried getting away from puck and only ported about 3m. and she tired quickly as well. she also didn't use magic even when fighting for the girl's life against bishop and psylocke handled her this time round as well. imo she is clearly depowered, or the writer has no idea of her actual abilities. as i said, there have been times in the past where hand movements and dancing weren't even required by her. she's single-handedly demolished STRONG x-men teams not to mention how she fared against the avengers. i'd def say she is depowered for this series--at least so far.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Since when are handbooks used as conclusive evidence of abilities?

Their not, hence why I have been constantly supplying scans while team gambit hasn't backed up anything. I asked for prove gambit is superhuman and have gotten nothing back. I even posted a scan of Puck speed blitzing an Iron Man foe (Mauler and his gang) bouncing off the walls. Show me gambit doing something like that.

Originally posted by leonidas
would i agree she humiliated him? no, not at all. the encounter was too brief to even call it a fight and what there was was pretty inconclusive imo, but were she at her normal displayed power levels her ability to teleport would be vastly better. i could post scans but then i'd have to find them. her combat teleportation is second to none under optimal conditions though. she tried getting away from puck and only ported about 3m. and she tired quickly as well. she also didn't use magic even when fighting for the girl's life against bishop and psylocke handled her this time round as well. imo she is clearly depowered, or the writer has no idea of her actual abilities. as i said, there have been times in the past where hand movements and dancing weren't even required by her. she's single-handedly demolished STRONG x-men teams not to mention how she fared against the avengers. i'd def say she is depowered for this series--at least so far.

That's a long winded reply merely to say no she didn't humiliate him as what another user said. Again as I said a few times could spiral be weaker? Sure. We just don't know for sure yet. That's it, that's all. Do I think Puck could take a spiral using full magic? No. That's not why the spiral encounter was even brought up. (I wasn't even the original one who did).

fair enuff. i brought it up because you'd mentioned that she hadn't been depowered at all. but she had been. it was shown in #3 that mojo removed some of her power. how much? guess we'll find out, but it seems to have been more than just the ability to dimension travel...

Originally posted by leonidas
fair enuff. i brought it up because you'd mentioned that she hadn't been depowered at all. but she had been. it was shown in #3 that mojo removed some of her power. how much? guess we'll find out, but it seems to have been more than just the ability to dimension travel...

I was referring to fightong skill and her magic as I said its definetly possible she could be weaker, but as of now they haven't said anything in that manner....yet. Wouldn't surprise me if they don't even mention a downgrade, just so he can pull the magic card later.

Not a big fan of the series anymore, but Puck one-shotting Bishop was nice. 😖hifty: