Originally posted by focus4chumpsDid I say the suits were weak I said they didn't make a human the equal of a transformer because unlike the exo-suits transformers don't have to have gaping holes in their robotic bodies to allow humans to use them. And there aren't any on screen feats that say the exo-suits are as tough as a transformer.
you fail because rather than just state the painfully obvious, you have enthusiastically tried over and over to negate on-screen-proven destruction capability of the exosuits blasters. your conclusions lack any evidence and are solely based on your own wishes. whether these wishes exist via needing to win this thread or just your overall interpretations from first viewing years ago is inconsequential. either way you are combating evidence with counter-intuitive speculation. (that the autobots and spike would build human-transformer battle armor with not even the firepower to scratch an itch on rumble's ass, and that the metal rod on the smelting vat was probably made of paper mache, right bro?)
Originally posted by focus4chumpsYou forgot to mention he didn't hurt or defeat a single one of them. Now compare that to when Hot Rod and Kup ran over some Insecticons.
i know that a 10 year old retard who was poorly practiced used it to:-bowl over both a constrution and insection when transformed
-knock a junkion out who was in the process of whooping stinger's ass.
-use blasters which despite all the thread gimping can still likely destroy unicron's pinchers
He knocked down(not out) the Junkion Leader from behind momentarily, long enough for Hot Rod to fly down in his space ship which stopped all the Junkion's from attacking while figured out what happened.
Cassette Formers have done more in their existence to hurt transformers. Ravage managed to knock down Constructicons in the same movie. And a small group of them were overwhelming Perceptor.
Daniel's blasters fired two shots into a vat wall. One missed the other barely did any damage to the vat, just enough to close the lid. Those blaster's never showed high precision or intense fire rate. In the entire movie that is their only feat. Yet you want to act like those blasters are somehow doing more damage to Unicron than an entire group of Transformers with more shown firepower and better feats.
Originally posted by Newjak
You forgot to mention he didn't hurt or defeat a single one of them. Now compare that to when Hot Rod and Kup ran over some Insecticons.
sure fine prime does it and its OMG wow. daniel does the exact same thing and its "yawn" although he bowled over 2 full size transformers
Originally posted by Newjak
He knocked down(not out) the Junkion Leader from behind momentarily, long enough for Hot Rod to fly down in his space ship which stopped all the Junkion's from attacking while figured out what happened.
right. he got knocked out and later got up. "knocked out" does not mean "killed" pr "put in a coma"
Originally posted by Newjak
Cassette Formers have done more in their existence to hurt transformers. Ravage managed to knock down Constructicons in the same movie. And a small group of them were overwhelming Perceptor.
right and all it took was one exosuit to knock down 2 full size transformers where the cassettes had to gang up. thank you for reenforcing my points while ignoring them...i guess
Originally posted by Newjak
Daniel's blasters fired two shots into a vat wall. One missed the other barely did any damage to the vat, just enough to close the lid. Those blaster's never showed high precision or intense fire rate. In the entire movie that is their only feat. Yet you want to act like those blasters are somehow doing more damage to Unicron than an entire group of Transformers with more shown firepower and better feats.
"blah blah i need to gimp the exosuit with baseless speculation"
Originally posted by focus4chumpsPrime did it while taking fire and then afterwards transformed and straight up destroyed 5-6 decepticons by himself. Hit me back up when Daniel does that.
sure fine prime does it and its OMG wow. daniel does the exact same thing and its "yawn" although he bowled over 2 full size transformersright. he got knocked out and later got up. "knocked out" does not mean "killed" pr "put in a coma"
right and all it took was one exosuit to knock down 2 full size transformers where the cassettes had to gang up. thank you for reenforcing my points while ignoring them...i guess
"blah blah i need to gimp the exosuit with baseless speculation"
You also ignored the point that when Kup and Hot Rod ran over the Insecticon's they clearly take damage. Daniel did nothing to the two he hit.
No he got knocked down and got back up almost immediately. Knocked down is not the same as knocked out. We see Daniel hit him we see him knocked down, then they cut to Hot Rod coming in. The Junkion Leader gets up rubs his head once and sounds more annoyed than damaged.
Did you miss the part where I said Ravage knocked over and pinned a Constructicon by himself?
One exosuit surprised two big transformers and did no damage to them at all.
It's what was shown on screen so it's not basisless. He fired two shots on missed. He didn't hit the bar holding the lid open he hit the side of the vat which is really big when you see Spike standing on top of it for perspective. And he didn't rapid fire anything.
So I don't think he has more firepower than a Transformer nor does he has faster fire than a transformer nor is he a more accurate shot. In fact based on his one scene of using his blasters they are very inferior to a transformers standard weapon based on size and feats.
Oh so youre comparing Daniel in Exosuit with Prime now? lol
Daniel didnt do nothing to the two he hit.
He knocked them over. You talk as if they stood there untouched laughing in his face.
Some here would argue that doing no damage to an opponent whatsoever, but having knocked them over, is a win.
But they are idiots, but since Daniel's life was about to be ended and he did what he did, and put a stop to them, and did it well enough to ensure that they did not pursue him anyfurther WAS win.
He hit the base of that rod. Clear to see.
The two shots were fired in rapid enough succession.
There wasnt really machinegun rate fire shown in the movie from any characters. Look at the rate of Prime's rifle shots for example.
apart from your point on ravage knocking over a constructicon its all just "BLAH BLAH NONSEQUETORS OVER ABILITIES, BASELESS SPECULATION, GIMP GIMP GIMP, I WIN!!!!"
anyway, thanks again for proving my point that even the smallest transformer can kick ass. oops you didnt mean to do that did you? dance more.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthAre you talking to me?
Oh so youre comparing Daniel in Exosuit with Prime now? lolDaniel didnt do nothing to the two he hit.
He knocked them over. You talk as if they stood there untouched laughing in his face.
Some here would argue that doing no damage to an opponent whatsoever, but having knocked them over, is a win.
But they are idiots, but since Daniel's life was about to be ended and he did what he did, and put a stop to them, and did it well enough to ensure that they did not pursue him anyfurther WAS win.He hit the base of that rod. Clear to see.
The two shots were fired in rapid enough succession.
There wasnt really machinegun rate fire shown in the movie from any characters. Look at the rate of Prime's rifle shots for example.
Chumps brought up prime, I just compared the damage hot rod and Kup did running over Insecticons compared to what Daniel did.
And I will clarify for you then... Daniel did not hurt the Transformers. Have you have been taken off guard by something and knocked off balance? Same thing Daniel didn't really hurt them, he took them by surprise when he transformed and took off like a bat out of hell. That's not beating them that's running away. You can say he won at running away but that doesn't mean he can defeat Transformers or that the exosuit makes him equivalent to them.
He didn't hit the base of the rod, watch it again screen by screen. You see the explosion hit the side of the vat below where the rod is. Considering the size of Spike on top of the vat you can clearly see it wasn't a small area he hit.
Originally posted by focus4chumpsThe smallest Transformer would beat an exosuit, so I don't know what you're dancing about. Before you go on about speculation, I'm stating my opinion based on feats performed by all involved. The Cassettte formers have better feats.
apart from your point on ravage knocking over a constructicon its all just "BLAH BLAH NONSEQUETORS OVER ABILITIES, BASELESS SPECULATION, GIMP GIMP GIMP, I WIN!!!!"anyway, thanks again for proving my point that even the smallest transformer can kick ass. oops you didnt mean to do that did you? dance more.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthI also wanted to add the two shots were fired together from two different blasters so we actually don't know there true fire rate. We just know Daniel shot with two blasters and one of the shots completely missed.
Oh so youre comparing Daniel in Exosuit with Prime now? lolDaniel didnt do nothing to the two he hit.
He knocked them over. You talk as if they stood there untouched laughing in his face.
Some here would argue that doing no damage to an opponent whatsoever, but having knocked them over, is a win.
But they are idiots, but since Daniel's life was about to be ended and he did what he did, and put a stop to them, and did it well enough to ensure that they did not pursue him anyfurther WAS win.He hit the base of that rod. Clear to see.
The two shots were fired in rapid enough succession.
There wasnt really machinegun rate fire shown in the movie from any characters. Look at the rate of Prime's rifle shots for example.
Originally posted by Newjak
The smallest Transformer would beat an exosuit, so I don't know what you're dancing about. Before you go on about speculation, I'm stating my opinion based on feats performed by all involved. The Cassettte formers have better feats.
you just proved that a robot smaller than an exosuit can take down a fullsize transformer. now that you realize what you did, you're subjecting everyone to the tap-tap-tapping of your clownshoes since you mooted your whole assertion that exosuits are ineffectual due to their size. you gonna cry now?
Originally posted by focus4chumpsNot really, as Cassette formers are better feat wise than exo-suits, and Ravage is one of the tougher ones, also feat wise. And Cassette formers don't beat bigger transformers unless in groups.
you just proved that a robot smaller than an exosuit can take down a fullsize transformer. now that you realize what you did, you're subjecting everyone to the tap-tap-tapping of your clownshoes since you mooted your whole assertion that exosuits are ineffectual due to their size. you gonna cry now?
And height wise they maybe slightly smaller but once again they don't have the giant gaping human sized compartment inside of them.
Cassette formers > exosuits
Originally posted by RobtardSo you just admitted I came up with this myself so I am original. But no really these attempts on Saddie's character are obviously taking their toll. Just lay off of him. For me. K.
You do this often, claim a post/comment was directed at someone else (often Sadako), you're very unoriginal. Work on coming up with your own thoughts, okay.