Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
that wasn't a shield though.. Hal created a little shield but then was forcibly thrown into a parked vehicle several feet away after Parallex fired at him..i do as i have the film on dvr for thread purposes..
He always has a personal shield on when his powers are activated. It surrounds him. Allows him to survive hits, survive in space etc.
I'd watch the very end again.
Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, I mentioned that. The training scene, when he had no idea what his powers could really do and he had the confidence of a teenage girl. I'm talking about the end of the film, with the actual Sun and where his powers and will power where far superior than his earlier untrained self.Tanking the Sun > fist, even from Hulk and Thor.
The Sun didn't hit him, what feats do you have of GL tanking hits/energy blasts?
Originally posted by Silent Master
The Sun didn't hit him, what feats do you have of GL tanking hits/energy blasts?
He was right next to it's surface, so he'd be subject to massive heat and gravitational forces on his body.
His training scene and Parallax's blast though. But that's inferior to his Sun feat. Are you trying to lol troll?
Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, no, people.Hal could take hits from all the Avengers at once and probably laugh. By the end of the film, his shielding allows him to casually withstand the heat and gravitational forces of the Sun on his body without even flinching.
End of the film, he and Sinestro were having a homoerotic conversation right next to the Sun.
Well the temperature and gravity of the sun is a constant thing, quite different from the concentrated force of a punch or a strike. Granted, it was still a very impressive feat for GL (and one that I forgot about till you mentioned it), but I think it's different from him trying to shield against random hits and strikes.
Kinda like how a spacesuit can protect you against the vacuum of space and exposure to the sun, yet you'll still get hurt if someone hits you with a steel pipe.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Exactly how close was he and how much force was he under?
Went right up to its surface before he turned around, as to trap Parallax.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Well the temperature and gravity of the sun is a constant thing, quite different from the concentrated force of a punch or a strike. Granted, it was still a very impressive feat for GL (and one that I forgot about till you mentioned it), but I think it's different from him trying to shield against random hits and strikes.Kinda like how a spacesuit can protect you against the vacuum of space and exposure to the sun, yet you'll still get hurt if someone hits you with a steel pipe.
Exactly, it a vague feat with no way to determine how much force he was withstanding. Not to mention that it was taking all the concentration he had, it'd be kind of hard to maintain that amount of focus while being attacked by multiple people
Originally posted by FrothByte
Well the temperature and gravity of the sun is a constant thing, quite different from the concentrated force of a punch or a strike. Granted, it was still a very impressive feat for GL (and one that I forgot about till you mentioned it), but I think it's different from him trying to shield against random hits and strikes.Kinda like how a spacesuit can protect you against the vacuum of space and exposure to the sun, yet you'll still get hurt if someone hits you with a steel pipe.
Think you're underselling it with your analogy.
All in all, Thor and Hulk are the only real threats. Hal doesn't even have to use his imagination here, he can copy Kilowog and create a mini sun.
Originally posted by Robtard
Went right up to its surface before he turned around, as to trap Parallax.
Again, exactly how close was he and how much force was he under?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Exactly, it a vague feat with no way to determine how much force he was withstanding. Not to mention that it was taking all the concentration he had, it'd be kind of hard to maintain that amount of focus while being attacked by multiple people
"Was talking casually with Sinestro."
Originally posted by Robtard
Went right up to its surface before he turned around, as to trap Parallax.
Yes yes, what I'm trying to say is, the gravity and heat of the sun will effect your entire body. It will pull his entire body in not just pieces of him. Which is somewhat different from an amount of force concentrated to a smaller area, say like Thor's fist.
I know I'm getting technical here, but being able to resist a constant force sometimes does not equate to resisting an explosive force.
Originally posted by Silent Master
When did Hal show the ability to do this in the movie?
Are we going to do the "he can only create exactly what he created and nothing else" tactics ? Despite his power being limited only to his imagination and to create a mini-sun he only needs to copy something someone else already did?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes yes, what I'm trying to say is, the gravity and heat of the sun will effect your entire body. It will pull his entire body in not just pieces of him. Which is somewhat different from an amount of force concentrated to a smaller area, say like Thor's fist.I know I'm getting technical here, but being able to resist a constant force sometimes does not equate to resisting an explosive force.
So if a character can survive an Abrams tank being lowered onto them, it's not safe to say then can tank normal punches?
Again, you're way underselling his durability.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes yes, what I'm trying to say is, the gravity and heat of the sun will effect your entire body. It will pull his entire body in not just pieces of him. Which is somewhat different from an amount of force concentrated to a smaller area, say like Thor's fist.I know I'm getting technical here, but being able to resist a constant force sometimes does not equate to resisting an explosive force.
NASA has built a probe that can withstand being in the corona of the Sun, I suppose Robtard believes that neither Ironman, Thor or the Hulk would be able to damage it.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2010/12/just-ask-flying-into-the-sun.html
Originally posted by Silent Master
NASA has built a probe that can withstand being in the corona of the Sun, I suppose Robtard believes that neither Ironman, Thor or the Hulk would be able to damage it.http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2010/12/just-ask-flying-into-the-sun.html
Corona isn't "center", which is what I think you were going for.
"After 21 circles, it will fall into a stable orbit at the 4-million-mile distance from the sun's center. That's well within the corona, the fiery atmosphere beyond the sun's ball."
Try again?
Originally posted by Robtard
So if a character can survive an Abrams tank being lowered onto them, it's not safe to say then can tank normal punches?Again, you're way underselling his durability.
What I'm saying is that if a character can survive having an Abrams tank resting on top of him, it doesn't mean that he can survive getting hit by a car going at 100 mph.
We have a lot of strongmen and people from Ripley's believe it or not who can withstand a pickup truck rolling on top of their bellies. But I seriously doubt they can withstand a full-forced blow of a sledgehammer to their bellies.
Originally posted by FrothByte
What I'm saying is that if a character can survive having an Abrams tank resting on top of him, it doesn't mean that he can survive getting hit by a car going at 100 mph.We have a lot of strongmen and people from Ripley's believe it or not who can withstand a pickup truck rolling on top of their bellies. But I seriously doubt they can withstand a full-forced blow of a sledgehammer to their bellies.
Looks like a standard shuttle could get within 1.3 million miles, that is 2.7 million miles closer than the probe.