Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You need re-read the fight. At the end, Thor regained his strength -to whatever extent that he could- and he God Blasted the Juggernaut. Before that, Juggernaut and Thor only ever traded blows when Thor was suffering from the equivalent of Asgardian epilepsy and could barely walk.Here:
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut1.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut2.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut3.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut4.jpg.html
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut4-1.jpg
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut5.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut6.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut7.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut8.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut9.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut10.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut11.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut12.jpg.html"Those spells seem to be growing in intensity and frequency! Each new attack leaves me far weaker than the previous one."
After all these years, I have no idea why this fight gets brought up in Juggernaut vs. Thor discussions as if their physical exchange is in anyway relevant. The only time they ever had a clean hand to hand scrap, Thor kicked dirt in his face, gave him a wedgie, and took his lunch money.
Exactly...which is what I said. Thor was at full power during the end which means he hit Juggernaut with a full power god blast. Juggernaut withstood which means Thor strength even at full power would have been worthless. His power was going on and off during that fight and even when he was fully active, he was still getting slapped around.
Originally posted by carver9
Exactly...which is what I said. Thor was at full power during the end which means he hit Juggernaut with a full power god blast. Juggernaut withstood which means Thor strength even at full power would have been worthless. His power was going on and off during that fight and even when he was fully active, he was still getting slapped around.
The seizures had aftereffects that weakened Thor, I posted the scans saying so. 😐
Thor never fought Juggernaut hand to hand in that issue legitimately. He could barely walk when he first chased after him:
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut4-1.jpg.html
And although he seemed to be fine when he tossed the hammer, as he explained here, it was the seizures that caused his collapse:
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut10.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut11.jpg.html
He doesn't have a momentarily spell and regain himself completely. Even if he's not falling over every few moments, he's still weakened.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The seizures had aftereffects that weakened Thor, I posted the scans saying so. 😐Thor never fought Juggernaut hand to hand in that issue legitimately. He could barely walk when he first chased after him:
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut4-1.jpg.htmlAnd although he seemed to be fine when he tossed the hammer, as he explained here, it was the seizures that caused his collapse:
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut10.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut11.jpg.htmlHe doesn't have a momentarily spell and regain himself completely. Even if he's not falling over every few moments, he's still weakened.
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut11.jpg.html
At last, the Delirium leaves and strength return to my limbs. Obvious his power came back and he didn't suffer any spells during his god blast either. When he suffered from spells, he was falling all over the place...that didn't happen during the end. Juggernaut withstood the blunt of his power and was shocked that he couldn't walk through it. Do you honestly believe Thor using his strength would have made a difference? Wait, I have proof that it wouldn't have made a difference. During their second encounter...Thor took away Juggernauts forcefield and was pounding him, when it returned, Thor punches did nothing which resulted in Thor bfring him. Thor didn't suffer "any" seizures during their second encounter which gives us a good indication on how a fight would have played out between the two. Thor would have lost and badly. Thor played his cards right and bfred Juggernaut before losing.
Originally posted by carver9
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut11.jpg.htmlAt last, the Delirium leaves and strength return to my limbs. Obvious his power came back and he didn't suffer any spells during his god blast either. When he suffered from spells, he was falling all over the place...that didn't happen during the end. Juggernaut withstood the blunt of his power and was shocked that he couldn't walk through it. Do you honestly believe Thor using his strength would have made a difference? Wait, I have proof that it wouldn't have made a difference. During their second encounter...Thor took away Juggernauts forcefield and was pounding him, when it returned, Thor punches did nothing which resulted in Thor bfring him. Thor didn't suffer "any" seizures during their second encounter which gives us a good indication on how a fight would have played out between the two. Thor would have lost and badly. Thor played his cards right and bfred Juggernaut before losing.
Read the scans, I know he regained some strength but as was clarified in the next issue, each seizure left him far weaker then the last one.
That's not true, what did I just say? Thor was under the effects of the actual seizure (Nevermind the aftereffects) in this scene but you wouldn't know it:
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut6.jpg.html
That's what Thor does, he pushes through. Yes I believe Thor not suffering from a loss of strength that reduced him to the point of barely being conscious would have made a huge difference. 😐 Since you know, he ended up beating Juggernaut in the second fight soon after when he wasn't weakened.
I don't believe his full strength would have gotten past the force field, but if he didn't have to deal with f*cking passing out and shit he could have found a way around it and wouldn't be so easily knocked out. Like in the second fight! 😱
Originally posted by curryman
High Trans? Is there a Mid Trans?Any version of Hulk or Grundy would probably so strong that while they'd never hurt Juggernaut they would be strong enough to toss him around effortlessly. They won't beat him, but they'd be strong enough to bully him 🙂
so by your logic anyone who can lift his weight which is around 800 lbs as i remember, and toss that weight for a fair distance can bully him? if we use your logic then the list is very very long....
Despero or the destroyer, hands down bully juggernaut, i dont know why but i seem to have a growing hatred for juggy, because of all the fabiy wanks he gets on this forum
sentry, superman, despero, the destroyer, full confidence gladiator, king hyperion or just hyperion
Not a tank but would absolutely bully juggs is wally west, bart allen or professor zoom
