Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Sue Richards cant be affected by TP inside her Force Field.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
The reason Piotr >> Ben = when they met before, Pete was a teenager.He has since gotten 2 upgrades, one by aging and the other by molecular realignment from Magneto.
He is much stronger and way more durable than Ben now, and the H2H training he has had makes him >>>>>> Ben.
Originally posted by zopzop
Sunfire is no Human Torch. Both IM and HT can control temperature so it's a wash.
He's controlling the chemical heat exchange for both Sunfire and Cannonball. HT can't control temperature to the degree and versatility that Iceman can - and won't even get the chance to do so since Iceman can stop him from even becoming a part of the game.
Yeah sue can affect Jean's tp and tk. Iceman still wins this for the x-men though...Crystal was able to affect the air inside Sue's bubble. Bobby is way more durable then Torch. He can survive w/o a body. Johnny burns Bobby's head off he will just reform. Iceman flash freezes Johnny its over. The moment sue goes down, jean can midrape everyone.
Don't see anyone here taking down Iceman.
Originally posted by nwg202
[B]Yeah sue can affect Jean's tp and tk. Iceman still wins this for the x-men though...Crystal was able to affect the air inside Sue's bubble. Bobby is way more durable then Torch. He can survive w/o a body. Johnny burns Bobby's head off he will just reform. Iceman flash freezes Johnny its over. The moment sue goes down, jean can midrape everyone.Don't see anyone here taking down Iceman.
Context people PLEASE...this was just after Jean was released from the cocoon she was placed in by the PF, in their attempt to free her Reed damaged her Telepathy so Jean had no Telepathy at this time which was continued in X-factor #1. Sue also had the element of surprise on a confused and weakened emotionally Jean Grey. With that being said Emma was able to use Telepathy on Sue through her force field in that X-men FF crossover.
And Jean is at least an equal psychic to Emma so she mindscrews everyone for the win.