North Korea

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
(last I heard, the DoD estimated it to be around 20 in 2004)

China has roughly 240 in their stockpile

Originally posted by Oliver North
China has roughly 240 in their stockpile

Originally posted by Omega Vision
EMPs from nukes aren't residual so far as I know, and the whole BS about fallout spreading like a plague is nonsense from 50s movies. The US is a big place, you can't render the entire country uninhabitable with twenty nukes. In fact I doubt you'd even kill a fifth of the population even if you hit the twenty biggest cities, and a Chinese first strike would be aimed at crippling America's ability to retaliate--i.e. many would be aimed at sparsely populated areas in the Midwest where the silos are.

So no, China is well aware that it can't hope to win or even break even against the US in nuclear war, even with a surprise attack.

Edit: Just read Rob's post about nuke tests. I guess I might be wrong about the fallout too.

Most of the US nuke tests were underground. Only a handful were conducted in open air. That said, 20 nukes would not create fallout on the order necessary to destroy the US' ability to sustain the majority of the remaining population. You also have to think about how much of the fallout would be contained due to the geography of certain areas.

Still, wouldn't be a fun day for anyone, except perhaps Brasil.

Don't make them Ang Lee, you wouldn't like them when they are Ang Lee.

Before the atmospheric ban in November of 1962(didn't take effect until 1963), there where 120 test done not underground and on US soil. The highest being 24 test in 1957.

I googled: http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/atomic/atmosphr/index.html

Looks like Supra isn't the only nervous one: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21807067

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Looks like Supra isn't the only nervous one: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21807067

Get the feeling that some influential contractors are working with their people in the government in order for billions of US taxpayer dollars to be spent?

Originally posted by Robtard
Get the feeling that some influential contractors are working with their people in the government in order for billions of US taxpayer dollars to be spent?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Looks like Supra isn't the only nervous one: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21807067

Thanks for linking that

The dictator reminds me of a kid throwing a fit when he doesn't get his way. He says he'll launch a war, but knows that NK would be destroyed in a matter of days.