http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/xlarge/Angron_12.jpg
Official model of Angron, Primarch of the World Eaters.
They are demigodlike super generals, each one the forefather to the superhuman Space Marines.
Lion El'Jonson, the Primarch Luther bested, was ten feet tall, could move faster than Marines could even perceive (Marines are bullet-timers like Raiden in many instances), withstand sorcery from one of the most powerful Lords of Change (An average one can eat souls with a glance or warp a towering hive spire in on itself), and Luther and Lion's clashes were creating shockwaves that were bringing the fortress around them down on top of them.
The ability to destroy a primarch is insignificant next to the power of the Nuclear Weapon.
Raiden is perhaps finest natural solider in entire Metal Gear canon, better than the Boss, Big Boss, Gray Fox, everyone. As evidenced by defeating Solidus and Vamp in combat, defelecting bullets with katana, getting the highest scores on all the VR missions, greatest child solider in history etc. All by end of MGS2.
With addition of receiving greatest technology in MG as well, with his new cyborg suit, he can now move fats enough to evade bullets, ragdoll giant mecha, and is impossible to kill with white blood enhancements.
Originally posted by The War Dragon
The ability to destroy a primarch is insignificant next to the power of the Nuclear Weapon.
Lorgar survived direct hits from a Plasma Blast Gun that vaporize cities, and are stronger weapons than Deathstrike Missiles, which destabilize tectonic activity on planets.
Konrad Curze as a baby survived plummeting through the crust and mantle of Nostramo, and crawled out.
Leman Russ, also as a baby, plummeted through a volcano, and crawled out.
Vulkan took a direct shot from a macron cannon and survived, starship weaponry.
Lion's durability is already posted.
Nuclear weapons do not compare to what Primarchs have tanked. Not that Raiden can output nuke level power.
Raiden is perhaps finest natural solider in entire Metal Gear canon, better than the Boss, Big Boss, Gray Fox, everyone. As evidenced by defeating Solidus and Vamp in combat, defelecting bullets with katana, getting the highest scores on all the VR missions, greatest child solider in history etc. All by end of MGS2.
Most of these are pretty vague statements, no real content that supports your debate.
But basic Space Marines like Argel Tal or Lucius have evaded or blocked bullets. A sergeant of the Ultramarines strikes a Word Bearer in a microsecond in Know No Fear.
With addition of receiving greatest technology in MG as well, with his new cyborg suit, he can now move fats enough to evade bullets, ragdoll giant mecha, and is impossible to kill with white blood enhancements.
Nah.
Luther blasts his mind to pieces.
Nuclear weapons are the most powerful weapons ever conceived bro. Not only do they destroy everything, but they spread harm to future generations too. There is only one defence, NDT, but as the world of 40K do not possess nuclear weapons with which to cause a retaliatory strike, they are hopelessly outmatched.
World of MG is simply much more powerful than that of 40K.
Originally posted by The War Dragon
Nuclear weapons are the most powerful weapons ever conceived bro. Not only do they destroy everything, but they spread harm to future generations too. There is only one defence, NDT, but as the world of 40K do not possess nuclear weapons with which to cause a retaliatory strike, they are hopelessly outmatched.World of MG is simply much more powerful than that of 40K.
They sure do have nukes; nukes that can destroy entire planets.
Troll moar.
Originally posted by The War Dragon40k does have nuclear weapons. They are bigger and more powerful than any real-life or MGS nuke.
Nuclear weapons are the most powerful weapons ever conceived bro. Not only do they destroy everything, but they spread harm to future generations too. There is only one defence, NDT, but as the world of 40K do not possess nuclear weapons with which to cause a retaliatory strike, they are hopelessly outmatched.World of MG is simply much more powerful than that of 40K.
MGS is not more powerful than 40k, shut up troll, get out of my forum.
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Wait a tick, Primarchs have official models now? What about official stats?The War Dragon, stop the troll trolling.
Angron is so far the only one with a model, he, Mortarion, Fulgrim, and Horus all have rules.
They are all priced from 350-500 points and are Greater Daemons+.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Angron is so far the only one with a model, he, Mortarion, Fulgrim, and Horus all have rules.They are all priced from 350-500 points and are Greater Daemons+.
Greater daemons? I thought those were phased out of the CSM codex, the only daemon anything I remember being in the codex not a possessed machine is the daemon prince.
