Originally posted by Rao Kal ElI have read many that's why I seriously question it. I have also seen an all out Superman unable to put WW down for the count with an all out punch. When Sentry goes all out people get ripped in half. Superman also stalemates captain Marvel in strength while the Sentry tapped WW Hulk(strongest Hulk had been up to that point in a fight). I think sentry is clearly a lot more powerful.
Comics dude, take off your biased goggles and read some Superman comics, it might help you.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I have read many that's why I seriously question it. I have also seen an all out Superman unable to put WW down for the count with an all out punch.
Then you probably have only read sacrifice, Because if you read for tomorrow in that story he pretty much casually handled her, OR absolute power, where all out sm killed her rather easy, or the JLA one shot where she acknowledges that she cannot defeat him.
AND You should re-read sacrifice with out your goggles, because if you notice on the first minutes of the fight, Superman was about to punch Diana into the sun, the sun was right behind her, but somehow the sun moved out of the way right in the very next panel (I would love for you to explain that), so basically Diana survived because the sun moved out of the way, then later on the SAME writer explained that and showed Superman's state of mind when fighting Diana, basically giving the idea of how hard it will be for anyone to try to have a decent fight while you are having hallucinations (you think, you could give a good fight when you see something with your eyes, but the reality is something completely different?)
So you are ignoring all those circumstances and those other examples.
Also it was said later on (52 series) that Max Lord was not able to break Superman's moral code to kill.
Originally posted by quanchi112
When Sentry goes all out people get ripped in half.
When Superman goes all out, not even The Atom at atom size is safe, he had to hide inside Superman's body in order to not get killed. ATOM SIZE!!! and breaks Diana's neck and Bracers AND GL's auto lethal protection shields.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman also stalemates captain Marvel in strength while the Sentry tapped WW Hulk(strongest Hulk had been up to that point in a fight).
Superman goes normal mode with CM, His character does not allows him to kill, let alone kill CHILDREN, He knows CM is a little kid AND He has defeated CM FYI.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I think sentry is clearly a lot more powerful.
You think He is more powerful, because of the way he is portrayed in a world where the dials go only up to 9. Sentry is powerful, but He is not beating Superman. Superman will win more often than not.
Originally posted by carver9
Rao...Those wasn't the real Diana you are referencing...Sacrafice is the real deal. That like someone using an alt Diana killing Superman with a stab to the stomach.
Yes, I know she is the same Diana form this universe from an alt time line, and Superman recalls killing her at the end of the arc, but, what about the other Diana's? Why do they get handled easily by Superman on the eyes of most writers. Even in the eyes of Rucka, he had to move the sun off Diana's certain death, in one of the best examples of PIS
The example you mention about the stabbing is a vision, not an event that did happen.
And explain why the sun moved out of the way of Diana's death?
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElI am not saying I think she is more formidable than he is. She clearly isn't but in sacrifice he was all out and hit her as hard as he could. She ended up getting the better of him in the end. She took his all out punch and still recovered. You can't take that away no matter how hard you try. She also held back.
Then you probably have only read sacrifice, Because if you read for tomorrow in that story he pretty much casually handled her, OR absolute power, where all out sm killed her rather easy, or the JLA one shot where she acknowledges that she cannot defeat him.
He still hit and hv'd her all out. She took it and still got the better of him. his mentality obviously hindered him all around but the ferocity of his attacks someone far less than he is took them. If an all out Hulk went at Diana he'd kill her imo. Two completely different levels of power but I don't have to tell you because I can tell by your sig you are turning on Superman.
AND You should re-read sacrifice with out your goggles, because if you notice on the first minutes of the fight, Superman was about to punch Diana into the sun, the sun was right behind her, but somehow the sun moved out of the way right in the very next panel (I would love for you to explain that), so basically Diana survived because the sun moved out of the way, then later on the SAME writer explained that and showed Superman's state of mind when fighting Diana, basically giving the idea of how hard it will be for anyone to try to have a decent fight while you are having hallucinations (you think, you could give a good fight when you see something with your eyes, but the reality is something completely different?)[/B]
Again this doesn't take away from what Diana herself did against an all out Superman. The only thing he ended up doing at the end of the fight was felt his blood run out of his throat.
So you are ignoring all those circumstances and those other examples.Also it was said later on (52 series) that Max Lord was not able to break Superman's moral code to kill.
When Superman goes all out, not even The Atom at atom size is safe, he had to hide inside Superman's body in order to not get killed. ATOM SIZE!!! and breaks Diana's neck and Bracers AND GL's auto lethal protection shields.[/B]
They are still strength peers. Hulk doesn't 'really have strength peers on his level unlike Superman. Marvel holds back as well.
Superman goes normal mode with CM, His character does not allows him to kill, let alone kill CHILDREN, He knows CM is a little kid AND He has defeated CM FYI.[/B]
Thor is no Sentry. Sentry is on another level entirely. If Superman's all out punch can't end Diana he isn't doing well against the sentry who is on another level.
You think He is more powerful, because of the way he is portrayed in a world where the dials go only up to 9. Sentry is powerful, but He is not beating Superman. Superman will win more often than not. [/B]
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am not saying I think she is more formidable than he is. She clearly isn't but in sacrifice he was all out and hit her as hard as he could. She ended up getting the better of him in the end. She took his all out punch and still recovered. You can't take that away no matter how hard you try. She also held back.
I am still waiting for your answer onto WHY the sun moved out of Diana's way.
If Superman have hit her into the sun she would most likely died. Do you agree or not?
Originally posted by quanchi112
He still hit and hv'd her all out. She took it and still got the better of him. his mentality obviously hindered him all around but the ferocity of his attacks someone far less than he is took them. If an all out Hulk went at Diana he'd kill her imo.
Not really, IF You read the comics like you claim you did, then you will know, that Superman did not wanted to kill Doomsday/Diana , He wanted to make him suffer first, so clearly there is no intention of killing. And I doubt Hulk can break WW bracers, kill her, maybe eventually, but not in less than 45 seconds. Superman got a WW KO in 45 seconds with the intention of making her suffer, Hulk might do the same with the intention of killing her.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Two completely different levels of power but I don't have to tell you because I can tell by your sig you are turning on Superman.
Lol, really? OK, Quani................ moving on.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Again this doesn't take away from what Diana herself did against an all out Superman. The only thing he ended up doing at the end of the fight was felt his blood run out of his throat.
Meh! The sun dodged Diana, pretty understandable as the plot needed it. And remember that throat cut healed pretty fast 😉
Originally posted by quanchi112
They are still strength peers. Hulk doesn't 'really have strength peers on his level unlike Superman. Marvel holds back as well.
LOL, Hulk has potentially unlimited strength, but he has to work for it. Superman is already there and his strength increases too, fyi as much as HE want's to. is not like He needs to get mad in order for him to become stronger, He just does it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor is no Sentry. Sentry is on another level entirely. If Superman's all out punch can't end Diana he isn't doing well against the sentry who is on another level.
He is in another level in the Quanverse, like Thanos and Hulk, not here.
Keep trying, you still have a lot to learn Quani.
Hopefully this time you won't dodge questions, because I remember last time I have to put you on the Kiddie table with Carver for dodging questions.