Thor vs S2 Goku

Originally posted by carver9
The crazy thing about your posts are, you keep basing things off of collateral damage, it doesn't work like that and anyone who knows anything about DBZ knows this. Sad thing, you all entire argument is based entirely off of collateral damage. Is this an anime thing? Is this how you all debate. You might as well say Frieza>>>Cell or Nappa>>>>>Tien. It's a terrible way to debate and on AVERAGE, Goku is above planetary and collateral damage doesn't change this.

(Note, not actually saying DB characters are only Hypersonic+ Mountain busters, )

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Goodbye, ki.

Originally posted by dadudemon

And before the comic book butthurt starts pouring in because Thor can keep up with and tag speedsters: that's hyperbolic writing that I reject and throw out. Bad writing on Thor's character.

well, he tried to discard feats like that.

Awesome I shall now apply this tactic in life.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Thor has never fought so fast that "regular eyes" would be unable to follow the movements. Thor simply is not fast enough to keep up with Goku, base-level.

And before the comic book butthurt starts pouring in because Thor can keep up with and tag speedsters: that's hyperbolic writing that I reject and throw out. Bad writing on Thor's character.

Threads like these should not be made. 616 Thor is not the same even within 616. It varies from author to author. So, for threads like these, I would prefer someone name a specific iteration of Thor and the clust**** of variation from the entirety of 616.

Originally posted by KAIKAGE
Exactly, that's the problem with characters like Thor and Superman, their feats and upper limits change like the weather to fit the story or to suit the author. The people who make these threads need to state what interpretation of their characters there talking about like what generation and whether it is the comic character or the cartoon character, because from what I've seen there's a big difference between the comic versions and the cartoon versions.

edit:i just saw your post history and you never been in the Comic Versus forum,okay seriously who are you to judge how we make a thread when things fly differently when it comes to Comics 🤨

Actually, Thor has moved faster than not just the human eye before on one occasion, but also faster than what Heimdall could perceive. Heimdall is the guy who can see an ant crawling on the Great Wall of China from Asgard and can perceive cosmic phenomenons like you or I could spot a rain cloud.

In any case, if even you want to dismiss all the times Thor's tagged speedsters, he still has omni-directional attacks, and a hammer that can home in on a target when thrown (which can range from supersonic speeds to grossly beyond lightspeed).

Thor's power set, namely Mjolnir, is just too much of a metagame against the likes of DBZ characters.

I believe the conclusion in the Thor vs Vegeta match was that Vegeta drains himself with energy blasts that Thor absorbs through Mjolnir.

Originally posted by dadudemon
And before the comic book butthurt starts pouring in because Thor can keep up with and tag speedsters: that's hyperbolic writing that I reject and throw out. Bad writing on Thor's character.

Interesting point of view, considering Walt Simonson's run, the definitive run on the character, had Thor being described as "fast as the lightning he wields" and blitzing and out-speeding space-faring Skyfathers like Surtr.

Thor has few concrete physical speed feats, but he has thrown a punch or two within a microsecond. --A microsecond is enough time for light to move about a thousand feet, so quite good--

It's a hella old feat, but take it for what you will.

Personally, its probably more like outlier territory, but if taken serious you have to give Thor the speed edge by far.

A punch in a microsecond would be less than mach 3,000.

That isn't out of Goku's speed range.

Marvel is shitty with speed in general. If you have super speed, better hope to God that it is your only power, because otherwise it will be entirely plot-dependent.

It's more like mach ~9000.

No one in DBZ thus far that I know of has demonstrated this level of physical speed or thought process (maybe in Battle of the Gods which I doubt I'll see anytime soon), seeing as a whole second doesn't feel like hours or anything to them. Afterall, 30 minutes is considered a somewhat short amount of time for them, not a long amount.

We have SSJ Goku failing to outrun Kid Buu's not even remotely lightspeed vanishing ball attack that blew up the Earth--we know the scene takes place in real time seconds since Mr. Satan was in the scene and witnessed it just fine--and we also know that in DBZ that your flight speed is above your physical speed as Goku notes on Snake Way.

So Goku runs, and thus moves his limbs in general, at speeds slower than his flight speed.

edit: Thor also has that one feat where he builds a fairly large tower with his bare hands, in no more than a minute iirc.

It isn't mach 9,000, unless you believe his fist traveled three meters (Thor is only like two meters tall). Or, if he did indeed throw like three punches in a microsecond.

Messed up on some mental math. It's actually more like Mach 900 (if we assume Thor's fist only traveled a single foot), not 9000.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Have you ever been to the Comic Versus forum? if not go there and see how we debate,what you are saying right now is as good as bashing everyone who argues in the Comic Versus forum. No better yet complain to the mods LOL!

edit:i just saw your post history and you never been in the Comic Versus forum,okay seriously who are you to judge how we make a thread when things fly differently when it comes to Comics 🤨

Originally posted by KAIKAGE
Exactly, that's the problem with characters like Thor and Superman, their feats and upper limits change like the weather to fit the story or to suit the author. The people who make these threads need to state what interpretation of their characters there talking about like what generation and whether it is the comic character or the cartoon character, because from what I've seen there's a big difference between the comic versions and the cartoon versions.

No, they really don't.

To be fair, comics do have a bad habit of making their character forget their powers.

Sometimes it is fairly rare and so obvious no one takes it seriously (Flash's showing against Deathstroke in Identity Crisis), but Thor should not be getting blitzed by Wolverine, Spiderman, or some other popular street level to low meta character, considering his showings.

Originally posted by NemeBro
To be fair, comics do have a bad habit of making their character forget their powers.

Sometimes it is fairly rare and so obvious no one takes it seriously (Flash's showing against Deathstroke in Identity Crisis), but Thor should not be getting blitzed by Wolverine, Spiderman, or some other popular street level to low meta character, considering his showings.

Well yeah, that's the writers having no imagination and using plot to justify shit.

Was speaking more about high showings than low ones, though.

Originally posted by KAIKAGE
Someone's touchie LOL 😆