Pure lifting strength Thanos V Superman

Originally posted by Diesldude
helspont just proved that he has enough to overcome superman's durability. Beating up someone doesn't prove that they are stronger. MMA fighters aren't the strongest me n in the world. Also fighting a person doesn't automatically put you in their class. The thing and the hulk have fought millions of times but no one would say that they are peers.

Casually doing so while being strongly implied to be holding back certainly suggests that. True, strength =/= durability in comics, but upon reading that issue it's very hard to get to any other implication than the one that Helspont is, at least for now, at the very least a peer to Superman if not superior to him as a whole.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Casually doing so while being strongly implied to be holding back certainly suggests that. True, strength =/= durability in comics, but upon reading that issue it's very hard to get to any other implication than the one that Helspont is, at least for now, at the very least a peer to Superman if not superior to him as a whole.

Pretty much.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Casually doing so while being strongly implied to be holding back certainly suggests that. True, strength =/= durability in comics, but upon reading that issue it's very hard to get to any other implication than the one that Helspont is, at least for now, at the very least a peer to Superman if not superior to him as a whole.

Originally posted by Diesldude
honestly, we are putting way too much on their brief encounter. That was a superman who wasn't aware of his limits nor as experienced. Helspont on the other hand was familiar with kryptonians and I have no doubt he used that knowledge to his advantage. But like you said, a causing a concussion by a casual back hand does speak volumes. I'll hold off on my judgment until they meet again.

Fair enough.

They fought twice correct. Both times Superman lost. It's pretty obvious what that tells us.

Actually...they fought twice and the 1st time helspont ran away, he didn't beat supes. The second time he won and revealed he was testing supes the 1st time. Smelled a bit like a really quick ret-con to me, but regardless, he still punked supes the 2nd time.

Supes's world lifting feat was a direct result of him getting that beat down. It was him training to push himself in order to be able to beat hel'spont. Who knows how it will go down next time they meet. I have a feeling though that supes will do much better the next time they meet.

Originally posted by h1a8
Judging by punching power and grappling power Thanos should be around Superman's strength level. I would say Superman edges him slightly in lifting power or they are equals.

Good answer, but when I look at what Helspont did to Superman in one move, I have a difficult time believing that Superman is as strong in body as Thanos, because that hit would have made Thanos smile.

Originally posted by Diesldude
honestly, we are putting way too much on their brief encounter. That was a superman who wasn't aware of his limits nor as experienced. Helspont on the other hand was familiar with kryptonians and I have no doubt he used that knowledge to his advantage. But like you said, a causing a concussion by a casual back hand does speak volumes. I'll hold off on my judgment until they meet again.

So just out of curiosity, let's say that they have that same confrontation but the roles were reversed and it was Superman slapping Helspont out into oblivion. Would Helspont be afforded the same luxury of

I'll hold off on my judgment until they meet again

???

Superman.

Originally posted by carver9
They fought twice correct. Both times Superman lost. It's pretty obvious what that tells us.

It's not my fault Carver is bringing up something that in no way applies to this fight.

Originally posted by Stoic
Good answer, but when I look at what Helspont did to Superman in one move, I have a difficult time believing that Superman is as strong in body as Thanos, because that hit would have made Thanos smile.

Also durability =/= strength. And are you talking about DCNU Superman? My argument is Pre Superman.

man, close a thread with tons of great history and leave this one open?? if we're this is going to turn into thanos v superman (and everyone knows it will...) you guys should have left the classic open.
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