John Hatcher vs John McClane

H2H fight to the death. No weapons
Who wins?

Who do you think wins?

IDK. The argument has been made that McClane has unbreakable bones

you indeed dont know who would win, simply out of cinematic ignorance, but why dont you tell us who you really really REEEEEEEEEEALY want to lose. 🙄

McClane wins.

mcclane locks hatcher in a pastry shop for 8 weeks. then opens the door and says something crude about hatcher's mom. after chasing mcclane for 20 yards /heart attack

fuggedaboutit

Originally posted by Silent Master
McClane wins.

Not again... what are people 2 years old, constantly throwing temper tantrums because their attempts at killing a fictional character keeps failing and failing badly..

McClane wins pure and simple

Originally posted by Lestov16
IDK. The argument has been made that McClane has unbreakable bones

that is backed up by something called screen feats.. McClane is basically immortal

Originally posted by Lestov16
As long as you can back that up with feats, sure

I'm glad you agree that McClane wins.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker

that is backed up by something called screen feats.. McClane is basically immortal

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm glad you agree that McClane wins.

Now post the scene please

Originally posted by Lestov16
So he has feats of beating a Hatcher level opponent in pure H2H?
Can you post this fight for me? As long as you post the fight of him taking on a Hatcher level opponent in pure H2H and winning, sure

Now post the scene please

Why don't you post some McClane level feats for Hatcher?

forgot to add:

"why doesnt hatcher just bust out of the pastry shop?"

because he doesnt want to.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Why don't you post some McClane level feats for Hatcher?

I asked first.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I asked first.

I see, thank you for admitting that you never actually saw the Die Hard movies or paid attention in all those McClane threads where people posted his feats multiple times.

Originally posted by Lestov16
As long as you post the fight of him taking on a Hatcher level opponent in pure H2H and winning, sure

Now post the scene please

By that same rational, Superman and Riddick would lose to Hatcher unless they're seen beating a "Hatcher level opponent in pure h2h". Because you love to ignore that there's more factors at play than just h2h skill, when you're trying yet again to kill McClane.

Originally posted by Robtard
By that same rational, Superman and Riddick would lose to Hatcher unless they're seen beating a "Hatcher level opponent in pure h2h". Because you love to ignore that there's more factors at play than just h2h skill, when you're trying yet again to kill McClane.

Look at it this way, he's finally admitted that he's ignored every McClane feat that's been listed/shown in the various threads that he's posted in.

Your argument makes no sense. Superman has taken on Zod. clearly a trans-Hatcher opponent, and Riddick took on the Lord Marshall, also trans-Hatcher. McClane has never taken on even a Hatcher-level, less lone trans-Hatcher opponent.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Look at it this way, he's finally admitted that he's ignored every McClane feat that's been posted in the various threads that he's posted in.

LOL at the hypocrisy coming from someone who is actively ignoring Hatcher's feats

Originally posted by Lestov16
Your argument makes no sense. Superman has taken on Zod. clearly a trans-Hatcher opponent, and Riddick took on the Lord Marshall, also trans-Hatcher. McClane has never taken on even a Hatcher-level, less lone trans-Hatcher opponent.

Are you sure?

Originally posted by Lestov16
Your argument makes no sense. Superman has taken on Zod. clearly a trans-Hatcher opponent, and Riddick took on the Lord Marshall, also trans-Hatcher. McClane has never taken on even a Hatcher-level, less lone trans-Hatcher opponent.

In terms of h2h skill, Zod (1980) is a base-level fighter. Lord Marshall didn't show any superb h2h skills, he also relied heavily on his power-set to win, Riddick also didn't take him out h2h or alone. But you'd not say those guys would lose to Hatcher because of their power-sets overall; you'd be right in doing so.

So why do you ignore McClane's other abilities and insist on a "unless he took on 'X' h2h, it doesn't matter" type of debate?