Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1. Who is more durable? - Split I guess.
2. Who is faster? Reflexes and travel speed. -- Billy has better reflexes, Bill can fly faster.
3. Who is physically stronger? Split or edge to Billy.
4. Who has the better will power? - Split, not enough evidence to give either the edge that I can think of at the moment.
5. Who is smarter? - Billy is wiser, Bill is smarter.
6. Who is a better fighter/Warrior? - Bill.
7. Who has more energy output? Split or Bill. Some kind of big ass Shazam Bolt might top Bill though.
8. Who is more versatile? - Bill.
9. who has a better chance at beating Superman - I don't think either is beating Superman by straight up punching. Magic, battle field removal, lightning bolts etc. are their best bets. But Billy has beaten Superman in the past so I guess he takes it by default?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
When has he traversed any kind of large distance with them? Scans? I think he once flew to the moon but anything even on par with interplanetary distance is coming up as blank.I said Billy had faster reflexes, we're debating travel speed here. Even if Billy could start faster, Bill would still catch up and beat him. And based on how Bill has handled himself in that blast battle with Surfer etc., quick reactions are well within his capabilities.
Based on what information are you assuming Billy can even go faster than light?
Any issue number of any kind?
I'm not trying to lowball Billy or anything but I honestly don't think there's any evidence supporting the Marvel's having interplanetary flight capabilities. At least as far as I know. Neither does Wonder Woman, although she probably would take some time just to travel between Moon/Earth distance based on what I remember (Having to be shuttled to Earth when teleporters broke while Superman flew to Earth in a panel and shit like that).
Originally posted by abhilegend
Cap has never beaten superman in a fight.
Bro, bro, bro. No one cares. Billy's knocked Superman out, that's enough.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm not trying to lowball Billy or anything but I honestly don't think there's any evidence supporting the Marvel's having interplanetary flight capabilities. At least as far as I know. Neither does Wonder Woman, although she probably would take some time just to travel between Moon/Earth distance based on what I remember (Having to be shuttled to Earth when teleporters broke while Superman flew to Earth in a panel and shit like that).Bro, bro, bro. No one cares. Billy's knocked Superman out, that's enough.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Sure. Superman has done it too. Also a mindcontrolled savage hulk has oneshotted thor many times now. Who cares about context, right?
It must hurt to care so much. I feel for you man.
Also, many times? Avenger's Assemble is one, what are the others? Am I missing some low showings?
The only instances I can remember within recent-ish times directly showcasing Hulk having an edge or superiority over Thor are Let the Battle Begin, Avengers Assemble, and Avengers under Hickman. Unless I'm missing a shit load else of stuff. Two of those involved a mind controlled Hulk turning on an unsuspecting Thor.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why so serious?You mean Hulk sucker punching Thor? I assumed they fought and knocked each other out off panel. Whatever, what are the others? You said multiple times.
Hulk did oneshot thor, cap said it out loud that he was the only one standing. Weren't you the guy who said that cap koing superman is all that matters? Seems reasonable to use in this scenario too.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Hulk also got shown up by Hyperion, who historically - and even recently - looks pretty inferior to Thor, so I wouldn't brag too much about Hulk to begin with as far as Hickman's run goes.In any case, it's cool that he seems to be pushing Hulk, Hyperion, and Thor as the big guns of the team.
Originally posted by curryman
Shouldn't he? 😛And it's not like that's such a great thing for Thor considering that he should be above Hyperion and Hulk 😛
He still has the overall best feats out of all of them and has taken on the greatest and most dire threats out of all three of them.
Some people think Thor's been "nerfed" or somehow isn't as powerful as he "used to be". Which is nuts. Just look at his recent ongoings and his Thor-centric events as of late. The past handful of years have shown some absurd Thor feats.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Who's serious?Hulk did oneshot thor, cap said it out loud that he was the only one standing. Weren't you the guy who said that cap koing superman is all that matters? Seems reasonable to use in this scenario too.
So Hulk and Thor took each other out as according to Cap. Thanks for agreeing with me bro.
I don't even care about that anymore. You said multiple times, I was just curious as to whether I had missed something. Guess I haven't, carry on.