Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yes they can. You can complain about, sure, it but they can.She could choose to have given birth to you anywhere she wished.
She could choose to get rid of her citizenship before giving birth.
This assume government has ownership over me. Which they do not. They can force me to do things and I can comply to save my life but this differs not from a mob.
thats a very idiotic way of thinking
In my case yes. But then again I think it's highly individual, the values I perceive as being important to my nationality might have a entirely different meaning to the guy next door. But basically what defines a nation is something that have been discussed at length and most likely will continue to be so.
Re: Does the country you were born in define your nationality?
Originally posted by RamyA333RRdidnt read the thread. your question is actually about whether nationality should define one's (ethnic) sense of identity. that's up to you. I didn't get whether you are legally considered an EAU national or not.
I am Lebanese citizen Born in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates or UAE on 10 June 1995, and grew up in its neighboring city Dubai where Burj Khalifa. Well UAE is a very famous country, and so developed. so I feel that I am more like Emarati than Lebanese because I had lived there in UAE since the moment I was born there in Abu Dhabi. And since I lived there for 18 years ago, and I still live there enjoying my life in the Emirates.
most countries use a jus solis rationale for nationality, meaning your birth within the borders makes you a national, while some other practice jus sanguinis, wherein you'd have to be a direct descendant of national, who in turn would have to be the direct descendant of a national, so on and so forth back to a population that would ultimately have to precede the modern national state itself. jus sanguinis is an atempt to define nationality almost around 'race' lines. germany is an example (no surprise there) and there are cases of people whose bloodlines have been in germany for 4 generations and still aren't considered german, because they dont descend from aryan ubermensch, I mean ethnic germans. /trolling
I'm American - but I don't identify with it. At least, what means "USA" to me. Remember that song with the line "...we're gonna kick your ass, cuz it's the American way..." NO IDENTIFY. Frankly, I'm offended by that. When the war in Iraq started, I was so angry. First of all, Bush had started a war without colluding with the branches of his government. I wondered why nobody stepped in to call him out. Also, the Bush/Gore elections, I wondered why nobody was enforcing the fact that Gore actually had more votes.
Being a patriot, in the regular sense of the word, is a hard thing for me, as I've lived and become more aware of politics and social issues. It just seems like the government is doing whatever the hell they want, whatever the price financially or culturally. [during the Bush reign.]
However, I do identify with the uniqueness that can be found here - the culture clashes that created beautiful things. Like jazz, the blues, folk music, bluegrass, [Basically New Orleans], places like Portland, Oregon, and NYC, New York. I love the fact that some people can still associate this country with hope - even though that doesn't happen like it used to. So I guess you could say I associate with American culture, but I definitely think the government has way too many holes that need to be patched.
Originally posted by siriuswriter
Ugh, I know exactly what you're talking about.
yep, don't they call the US the "melting pot" for no reason. They say that everyone is from somewhere else, I mean is the US you are defined by your family's ancestry but when you visit the rest of the world you are American
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
potatoes and carrots :-)
This is evidence about your ancestry.
I conclude that your parents are ninnies based on this evidence.
Here's how:
1. Potatoes and Carrots are both vegetables.
2. Someone who would take pride in mentioning Potatoes and Carrots is a person that takes pride in vegetables.
3. In the context of this thread, that is a clue about your birthplace/heritage which points to your parents.
4. Your parents instilled this belief of pride in vegetables since you were a wee laddie.
5. This means your parents are vegetarians/vegans.
6. Vegetarians/vegans are ninnies.
Conclusion: your parents are ninnies.
If you made it this far into my post: evillaugh
If you've made it this far, then you probably meant Irish or something but I could not just straight up state that, no could I? 😄
National identities are a sham in my opinion, they are an invention of the late 19th century that is only useful to manipulate people into some sort of national guilt. Again, if you actually care about those elements, it is not an entirely national phenomena, but a local culture that you cherish and value. The idea of a nation having a single identity is ridiculous anyways -maybe if it was a tiny tiny nation?-.