Superman is DCs Last Hope Against Marvel

Started by quanchi11226 pages

Originally posted by playa1258
Its not an excuse when its the truth.
Same can be said of Batman. If a crappy movie can make this amount no excuse why a better movie with great action doesn't do better.

It should work that way but it just does not. Plenty of films in the $1billion club that don't deserve the money they made.

Originally posted by playa1258
It should work that way but it just does not. Plenty of films in the $1billion club that don't deserve the money they made.
Thats your opinion. What matters is which films made the billion dollar club not your faves.

So a films quality is judged on its gross rather than personal opinion... Lol ok.

Originally posted by ares834
So a films quality is judged on its gross rather than personal opinion... Lol ok.
No, but personal opinion clearly varies but success of the film is a fact. Now do you get it ?

Originally posted by ares834
So a films quality is judged on its gross rather than personal opinion... Lol ok.

Pretty much for Quanchi

that's why he jumps on that films bandwagon.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, but personal opinion clearly varies but success of the film is a fact. Now do you get it ?

But what does success of a film have to do with its quality? Afterall, someone said they thought it was better than the Avengers at which point you claimed it has no reason to not outperform it then.

Originally posted by ares834
So a films quality is judged on its gross rather than personal opinion... Lol ok.
You're gross.

Come at me.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Pretty much for Quanchi

that's why he jumps on that films bandwagon.

Incorrect. I don't like Ironman 3 but its success is a fact. I hear people say they loved it. Subjective.

Originally posted by ares834
But what does success of a film have to do with its quality? Afterall, someone said they thought it was better than the Avengers at which point you claimed it has no reason to not outperform it then.
Quality is subjective as someone can say the movie was superb. Your opinion isn't any better than theirs and opinions vary.

Ok so why mention that it should outperform the Avengers than? Thorin simply said it was better not that it would be more successful.

Originally posted by ares834
Ok so why mention that it should outperform the Avengers than? Thorin simply said it was better not that it would be more successful.
Because its just his opinion which doesn't mean anything. Only thing you can state factually is what does better.

So we aren't allowed to state our opinions?

Huh.

Btw, opinions do matter. I'm certainly interested in how others view a movie, book, or game and I'm sure I'm not alone in that sentiment.

There you go again

"Only thing you can state factually is what does better."

and you say your not a bandwagon jumper........ 🙄

Originally posted by ares834
So we aren't allowed to state our opinions?

Huh.

Btw, opinions do matter. I'm certainly interested in how others view a movie, book, or game and I'm sure I'm not alone in that sentiment.

We can state our subjective opinions but the only thing objective here is success.

Originally posted by Kazenji
There you go again

"Only thing you can state factually is what does better."

and you say your not a bandwagon jumper........ 🙄

I love plenty of things which weren't mega hits. CoR is a prime example. I don't even like IronMan 3 but objectively its a huge success.

You sure like to boost your post count up

still haven't worked out how to do one whole one.

Originally posted by Kazenji
You sure like to boost your post count up

still haven't worked out how to do one whole one.

Seriously, stick to the topic. Your obsession with me is rather off putting.

Quan...wtf is wrong with you?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman is bound to be big after Batman. See what I did. Quit making excuses. Iron Man 3 was lackluster yet still made a ridiculous amount.

This is true but unfortunately films are no different from music now in that regard. Justin Bieber sells 10s of millions of albums while genuinely talented musicians have a small but dedicated fan base and don't make anywhere near as much money. It doesn't equate that Bieber's music is superior.

There's also the fact that with films it doesn't matter how many trailers you've seen and made you want to see it, you can still come out of the cinema not liking the film but by that point they've already made their money from you. It also works the opposite way. The trailer for Cabin in the Woods made it look like a very cliched horror movie when it was anything but. It didn't take a colossal amount of money but was a far better film than almost anything else that year. It was my favourite film of last year followed by Seven Psychopaths which both made a fraction of my next 2 films which were Avengers and TDKR.

So I don't think either are a perfect way to judge how 'good' a film is. Imagine if a trailer made a film look brilliant and on the basis of that st made hundreds of millions at the box office yet not a single person liked it. Would it still be a 'good' film? Obviously an unlikely scenario but it highlights my point via money generated isn't a good indication of whether a film is any good or not.