Originally posted by carver9
Can Thor shake a planet in a fist cuff like Hulk has done, twice? Don't see what the issue is. WWH took out an amped LOEB RULK with a thunderclap. Can you see Thor replicating this with his hands? Hulk took out two high class Savage Hulk level beings that was the size of skyscrapers and amped 1000 timed their natural strength and punched both of them out of orbit along with part of the city. Can you see Thor doing this? WWH over powered Skaar who was amped to 100 trillion tons of strength and WWH did it with one hand while holding back. This doesn't include him being weakened and still capable of moving the tectonic plates of a planet twice the size of Earth or 4 shot koing a being that was equal to another being that took out both Ironman and Thor with one punch. Or his fight against Black Bolt on the moon being felt on Earth causing planetary destruction.
Originally posted by abhilegend
None of that happened by WWH, carv. The hulk who appeared afterwards TIH 611 was the original worldbreaker from WWH 5 after he absorbed all the gamma energy intelligencia stole from him.
Ok (I rarely reply to you ABHI...nothing against you buddy, I just dislike your debating style...that's all. The only reason I replied to you in the Doomsday thread was due to you being a hypocrite. I know you've noticed me ignoring you. If someone was ignoring me, I wouldn't even respond to them).
Originally posted by carver9
Ok (I rarely reply to you ABHI...nothing against you buddy, I just dislike your debating style...that's all. The only reason I replied to you in the Doomsday thread was due to you being a hypocrite. I know you've noticed me ignoring you. If someone was ignoring me, I wouldn't even respond to them).
Originally posted by Horrificus
No.You are fast surpassing any and all other Hulk-huggers in this forum.
WWH is NOT what you are portraying him to be. There are legitimate arguments against, or alternate explanations for almost every over-the-top Hulk feat you throw around here. But, nobody cares enough to get into an endless, abusive debate with you and the others who feel the same way.
However, you are a knowledgeable comic debater, so, in truth, I am not really trying to rip on you. But, you have to be stopped before your evil spreads any further...
Lol...right, my bad for not letting you spread misinformation. Your opinion on hulk related Events is worth absolutely nothing as you natural anti-hulk predisposition precludes you from exhibiting any form of rationality concerning him.. You deliberately misinterpret and project non existent circumstances onto on clear on panel Events and then when you get called on it talk about "legitimate" alternative explanations which are "just your opinion", so that you don't have to provide a legitimate defense for the nonsense that you typically spout. Come back to me when these legitimate alternative explanations don't involve you falsely claiming that hulk was amped by the wishing well even though it is contrary to both on panel depiction and clear authorial intention. "legitimacy" presupposes a real justification...it is not merely "I don't like it, so it didn't happen".
The level of willful recalcitrance and baseless idiotic obstinacy you display concerning hulk is profoundly embarrassing and so unless you have any actual arguments to contribute that are not grounded in hatefilled delusion then GTFO. Conversely I dare you to actually engage in rational argumentation for one of these your "alternative explanations" and I promise to take some time out of my busy day to absolutely tear that crap to shreds.....again 🙂
Originally posted by Damborgson
He's exaggerating on some of that. Bi-Beast and Wendigo were not that strong, Rulk used a dobule handed slam to creat the nuke like explosion, and I don't know when greenscar shook the planet in a fisticuff. Think he's talking about when he fought the mutant pigs but pretty sure that didn't happen. At least not the entire planet.
True, we agree that the x1000 statement was likely hyperbole..however it is also apparent that amp was supposed to be gargantuan and something likely far in excess of kurses 4x amp....Then there is the fact that they were two....as opposed to one ( along with armcheddon who he was no selling). As for the Rulk thing he was also extremely amped off of hulks own power no less and not only did Greenscar/wwh take his best shots to the face with no harm, he laid him out with a mere thunderclap. Clearly we see that Greenscar even pre world breaker levels could go far and beyond what he did in the Wwh arc itself ( here it was made clear that he willfully limiting himself).
Originally posted by Naija boyOn a side note: Face the truth- You LIKED being compared to Emperor Palpatine! 😄
Lol...right, my bad for not letting you spread misinformation. Your opinion on hulk related Events is worth absolutely nothing as you natural anti-hulk predisposition precludes you from exhibiting any form of rationality concerning him.. You deliberately misinterpret and project non existent circumstances onto on clear on panel Events and then when you get called on it talk about "legitimate" alternative explanations which are "just your opinion", so that you don't have to provide a legitimate defense for the nonsense that you typically spout. Come back to me when these legitimate alternative explanations don't involve you falsely claiming that hulk was amped by the wishing well even though it is contrary to both on panel depiction and clear authorial intention. "legitimacy" presupposes a real justification...it is not merely "I don't like it, so it didn't happen".The level of willful recalcitrance and baseless idiotic obstinacy you display concerning hulk is profoundly embarrassing and so unless you have any actual arguments to contribute that are not grounded in hatefilled delusion then GTFO. Conversely I dare you to actually engage in rational argumentation for one of these your "alternative explanations" and I promise to take some time out of my busy day to absolutely tear that crap to shreds.....again 🙂
Originally posted by abhilegend
Lulz @calling me a hypocrite. Concession accepted btw.
This is my last post to you. Enjoy.
"I'd turn into the Hulk. The same Hulk in MANHATTAN, THE SAME HULK WITH GRIEF. THE SAME HULK THAT TOOK OUT "BLACK BOLT, SENTRY, THE FANTASTIC FOUR, THE AVENGERS". Only one Hulk did this, wasn't Savage Hulk, wasn't Mindless Hulk, War Hulk, Grey Hulk...it was Green Scar aka WWH. The Hulk "after" World at War was the same Hulk.
Originally posted by pym-ftwcool, I wasn't aware of this ruling but it kinda conforms to what I said. It's basically a capped wwh vs kurse because he can't approach wbh level. Wwh starting maybe stronger than Thor but not kurse. That's why I said what I did.
There is a forum ruling on hulk about that from the modsHe can only grow to the maximum of that hulk ie Green scar stays at his max without WB lvls
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
The thought that Hulk would be able to beat someone who has 4x Thor's strength (who himself has proven that he's a peer to Hulk in strength) is borderline laughable.
I think Marvel has made it pretty clear these days that the Hulk is stronger than Thor, even at his average fighting levels. Didn't Hulk recently one-shot Thor by grabbing his arm and 'smashing' Thor with his own hammer?
On topic, this is a tough fight but the Hulk would eventually win. Sure, Kurse will pound on him but WWH's healing factor was insane. He'll soak up the damage, get pissed and beat Kurse down. Hell, the Savage Hulk did something similar to an Abomination that was supposedly twice as strong as he was in IH#270.
Originally posted by carver9You say that every other day.
This is my last post to you. Enjoy.
"I'd turn into the Hulk. The same Hulk in MANHATTAN, THE SAME HULK WITH GRIEF. THE SAME HULK THAT TOOK OUT "BLACK BOLT, SENTRY, THE FANTASTIC FOUR, THE AVENGERS". Only one Hulk did this, wasn't Savage Hulk, wasn't Mindless Hulk, War Hulk, Grey Hulk...it was Green Scar aka WWH. The Hulk "after" World at War was the same Hulk.You still going by that? Good grief bro, intelligencia stole worldbreaker hulk's energy and then banner absorbed it back and became hulk. How hard is it to understand that?
gotta say, i also don't see wwh (the one who was pounding on herc) winning this one.....not against kurse who is 4x thor and was easily manhandling bill and thor simultaneously iirc. i'm also not one for comparing numbers as they tend to not hold up imo across writers or even arcs. we saw on panel that sentry was pretty close to hulk. 2 sentrys would have beaten him. 4 sentrys....? i think kurse's strength level is worth about 3-4 sentrys. and that's only if you believe sentry is as strong as thor, which is at least debatable imo.
i'd take kurse over that version of the hulk. if hulk were to win, i think he'd out-think kurse and find a way to exploit his weakness.