WBH goes up against the trans guys.

Started by Damborgson5 pages

Re: WBH goes up against the trans guys.

Originally posted by red sabre
so i see many of you think WBH is too strong for the high heralds, then lets spice things up and put him vs a list of trans beings in a slugfest so here we go.

Thanos- Hulk, but Thanos lasts a bit
King Thor- King Thor
HP Doomsday- -thinking-
Kurse- Hulk
Bor- Hulk
P5 Namor- Hulk
Kuurth- Hulk
Superboy prime- Hulk
Superman 1 Million -Idk
Guardian Amped Prime- Prime can get it I think

Originally posted by Raisen
I don't understand. The only trans I see on this list is Thor. The rest are clearly 100% male.

^ You are clearly moving to the Gamma Nation

Hulk is still a filthy green animal that deserves to have his bones made into Thor's throne and his head used as a goblet for Thor's drink. IF Thor finds him worthy of that honor. But not until Thor has beaten every inch of life out of him with the most powerful weapon to grace the hands of the gods...Mjolnir, the crusher. The Hulk will feel fear as he realizes the inescapable truth that his mortal life is a match to be blown out by the winds of a thousand worlds that Thor has at his command.

But that said I'm just trying to give him some credit haha >_<

See that?

That is power. That's real power, with a good storyline to end it. Not someone beating his wife because he gets a thrill out of it.

oh and I'm done btw 👆

^LOL 👆

Re: WBH goes up against the trans guys.

[QUOTE=14254631]Originally posted by red sabre
[B]so i see many of you think WBH is too strong for the high heralds, then lets spice things up and put him vs a list of trans beings in a slugfest so here we go.

Thanos - hulk wins
King Thor- hulk wins
HP Doomsday- dunno
Kurse- hulk wins
Bor- hulk wins
P5 Namor- hulk wins
Kuurth- hulk wins
Superboy prime- hulk wins
Superman 1 Million- dunno
Guardian Amped Prime -hulk loses

Re: Re: WBH goes up against the trans guys.

Originally posted by zeel
[QUOTE=14254631]Originally posted by red sabre
[B]so i see many of you think WBH is too strong for the high heralds, then lets spice things up and put him vs a list of trans beings in a slugfest so here we go.

Thanos - hulk wins
King Thor- hulk wins
HP Doomsday- dunno
Kurse- hulk wins
Bor- hulk wins
P5 Namor- hulk wins
Kuurth- hulk wins
Superboy prime- hulk wins
Superman 1 Million- dunno
Guardian Amped Prime -hulk loses

👆 except for prime. i think he could take some if he uses his speed.

In a slugfest, the Hulk's strength will never amount to a fraction of Superboy Prime's. You're going to have a hard time finding a scan where WBH Hulk lifts the earth's weight...and that's just post-reboot. #17 was to show you DCnU is every bit of post-crisis.

Originally posted by Dolos
In a slugfest, the Hulk's strength will never amount to a fraction of Superboy Prime's.

Not sure if serious...?

Dismissing the speed advantage Prime has, you don't think Hulk's strength could ever come close to rivaling his?

Surely you acknowledge that if Hulk connected on Prime, Prime would most certainly feel it and then some?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
^ You are clearly moving to the Gamma Nation
no matter what anti-gammetic stuff he posts we all know he's just trying to bury his true feelings 🙂

Originally posted by red sabre
so wait a second, if you do take that into account literally and you take that 1 feat as his standard and you admit yourself that even a skyfather cant achieve such thing, that means you are saying WBH is beyond a skyfather right? you are basically right now by giving this feat all the credibility saying that WBH is above a skayfather with his strength?

as i said before this feat cannot be adressed because of the simple fact it was a shared feat, the colliding of both hulk and red she hulk could cause all sorts of energy however hulk himself probably could not produce those energies.

my point of superman and captain marvel lifting infinity pages is valid, you are talking pure bullshit, it has nothing to do with mass, infinity pages means an endless amount of pages therefor an endless amount of weight, this is a magical thing this book contained infinity weight that never ends and they lifted the unliftable, its the ultimate feat, as i remember thor and BRB collided hammers and destroyed a reality or universe i dont remember clearly right now however it is clear thor cant do half of either with a hammer strike.

if you choose to take that absurd feat into account then we dont know the portion of power hulk himself contributed to the outcome, show me a proof hulk contributed at least 50%? for all that i care 90% of the power came from red she hulk prove me wrong.

the hulk that punched bio beast and wendigo was WBH.

facepalm. What hogwash. First of all, "skyfather level" is a battle board power level classification. A feat cannot be discredited on the basis of whether it conforms to a characters preconceived battleboard power level classification. Writers are not hindered by such arbitrary constraints. Hence just because WBH was portrayed as outperforming a skyfather level character owner own realm ( with the shockwave of his collision no less) does not mean the feat can be discredited because you don't feel he should have been able to do it. Such whimsical reasoning is inane, demonstrative of bias, and totally inapplicable. Secondly, him outperforming a skyfather in that instance does not necessitate his elevation beyond skyfather level since skyfather level characters typically have a plethora of other powers that would give them convincing wins against WBH.

Furthermore, the feat was a shared feat with two people of explicitly equal power. That takes away any projected ambiguity you would like to impose on the feat as we know that at bare minimum both characters had what it takes to provide half of the overall force generated. What defeats that point even more, is that the feat is so grandiose, that even if it is divided by a hundred the level of force generated would still put WBHs strength, above anything mustered by a good portion of the characters In your list. So it being a shared feat doesn't take anything away from it.

And no your point about the infinite page feat is not valid at all. It's asinine. That feat is not parallel to the world breaker feat as it is inherently unquantifiable and even disregarding that represents an outlier high feat not consistent with either supes or of their marvels portrayals. The same logic that you are using to assume infinite "weight" ( which is merely the pull of gravity on mass) despite that never being mentioned, also necessitates that the book possess infinite mass and occupy infinite space. The latter two implications clearly did not follow and thus we cannot at face value assume the former. And no Thor and Brb did not destroy a universe with combined hammer strikes and so that comparison is also terribly faulty.

You are particularly clueless. The hulk that punched Wendigo and bi beast was a holding back Greenscar as it was revealed that hulk only ever unleashed himself fully as World breaker in the dark dimension which happened after the bi beast and Wendigo encounter.

Your capricious attempts to discredit the feat are transparent and have no substance whatsoever

Guys, I've been lowballing the WBH world breaking feat in the dark dimension. For that I'm sorry... See, I always thought that matter in the dark dimension was not as durable as the matter in the 616 universe. I was wrong, it is way more durable. See the scan from Incredible hulks #635.

See those rocks? they are way too tough, the mindless ones and the monsters that were amped by 1000x were disintegrated while the rocks only crumbled. So those rocks sure had to be mighty strong and made from matter way more durable than anything in the Marvel U.

Red Sabre, stop making bait threads.

This absolute and decisive ownage deserves the last word before I close the thread.

Originally posted by Naija boy
facepalm. What hogwash. First of all, "skyfather level" is a battle board power level classification. A feat cannot be discredited on the basis of whether it conforms to a characters preconceived battleboard power level classification. Writers are not hindered by such arbitrary constraints. Hence just because WBH was portrayed as outperforming a skyfather level character owner own realm ( with the shockwave of his collision no less) does not mean the feat can be discredited because you don't feel he should have been able to do it. Such whimsical reasoning is inane, demonstrative of bias, and totally inapplicable. Secondly, him outperforming a skyfather in that instance does not necessitate his elevation beyond skyfather level since skyfather level characters typically have a plethora of other powers that would give them convincing wins against WBH.

Furthermore, the feat was a shared feat with two people of explicitly equal power. That takes away any projected ambiguity you would like to impose on the feat as we know that at bare minimum both characters had what it takes to provide half of the overall force generated. What defeats that point even more, is that the feat is so grandiose, that even if it is divided by a hundred the level of force generated would still put WBHs strength, above anything mustered by a good portion of the characters In your list. So it being a shared feat doesn't take anything away from it.

And no your point about the infinite page feat is not valid at all. It's asinine. That feat is not parallel to the world breaker feat as it is inherently unquantifiable and even disregarding that represents an outlier high feat not consistent with either supes or of their marvels portrayals. The same logic that you are using to assume infinite "weight" ( which is merely the pull of gravity on mass) despite that never being mentioned, also necessitates that the book possess infinite mass and occupy infinite space. The latter two implications clearly did not follow and thus we cannot at face value assume the former. And no Thor and Brb did not destroy a universe with combined hammer strikes and so that comparison is also terribly faulty.

You are particularly clueless. The hulk that punched Wendigo and bi beast was a holding back Greenscar as it was revealed that hulk only ever unleashed himself fully as World breaker in the dark dimension which happened after the bi beast and Wendigo encounter.

Your capricious attempts to discredit the feat are transparent and have no substance whatsoever