Originally posted by LeonBuco666First off the Doctor didn't make the reality bomb the Daleks did.
with the reality bomb of cause or blowing up the tardis, the reality bomb would destroy the multi verse and the tardis would destroy the universe so what ever he feels like while he has NO morals an does not care about his own well being
Secondly Reed could stop the Tardis from blowing up.
Curious, who thinks with his prep the doctor might bring in some of his allies as he likes to do when he faces big threats? Might serve a proper enough distraction and aid for him to win.
Also I'm not convinced reed would figure out everything about the sonic screwdriver and make all his allies immune. I remember the doctor being able to change frequency to effect things it otherwise couldn't (for one reason or another) effect as well and it just seems unlikely reed would know the full capacity of his weapon and effectively guard against it.
I have this funny image in my head of Doctor stomping reed and as last bit of insult reverted Ben back into human form, something reed has struggled with. Well I found it funny 😄
Originally posted by Newjakyes locked in a time loop parallel to everybody else thus wiped from existence, and yes reed probly could do the same but imo the doctor is smarter and more dangerous than reed an his team, a blood lusted doctor, take a look at what he did to that scarecrow family, they were smart too
He didn't wipe them out he trapped them in a time loop by tricking the time lords. Reed could have done the same thing.It's already been shown that if the Doctor took on a group of those Daleks head on he would have died as well.
As for the Time Lords being on par with the watchers. Maybe in role but not in power.
Most of their feats aren't that impressive especially when compared to comic book universes like Marvel and DC.
Fusion bombs were a devastating weapon. They were tested in the 23rd century. If detonated in sequence, their effectiveness increased logarithmically. The effects were:
One bomb - leveled a city and could kill upwards of 50 million people
Five bombs - total destruction of a planet
eight bombs - solar system-wide, shattering every solid planet and igniting the gas giants
They were banned before any larger combination could be tried.
Adjudicator Medford, believing the Time Lords were a threat to Earth, filled the Machine with more than twenty (which could potentially annihilate a galaxy)
Originally posted by LeonBuco666JUST saying
Fusion bombs were a devastating weapon. They were tested in the 23rd century. If detonated in sequence, their effectiveness increased logarithmically. The effects were:
One bomb - leveled a city and could kill upwards of 50 million people
Five bombs - total destruction of a planet
eight bombs - solar system-wide, shattering every solid planet and igniting the gas giantsThey were banned before any larger combination could be tried.
Adjudicator Medford, believing the Time Lords were a threat to Earth, filled the Machine with more than twenty (which could potentially annihilate a galaxy)
oh one more......something no one on team 2 could defend themseves against...Xiuhcoatl which translates turqiose serpent the 7th doctor stated with his own words that is is the most powerful and precise weapon he had ever seen....it was easily capable of turning a pool of water into a nuclear bomb or hollowing out a planet or fusing two molecules of hydrogen together... seriously team 2 is going down
Originally posted by JakeTheBankWith the Key to Time.
How would the Doctor contend with the Infinity Gauntlet?
Pretty much the Dr.WHO U eqiv of the Gauntlet.
Of course the gauntlet is just a tool,just like the KTT.Its not like Reed created it...unless there is some dumb ass retcon story arc out there I am unaware of.
Originally posted by Newjakto be fair the satan entity was weakened when the black-hole killed him. Also the Doctor's current enemy "The Great Intelligence" is actually Yog-Sothoth IIRC going all the way back to 5th doctor if my memory serves me correctly of the Cthulhu mythos. btw in the Dr. Who mythos the cthulhu mythos entities are actually similar to galactus in origin as survivors of the previous universe.
And the Black Hole killed Satan.Heralds survive black holes so it's not that big of feat compared to Marvel and DC.
Reed has taken on and beaten bigger threats.
Furthermore, going back to the 4th doctor he was the champion of the white guardian i.e. the Order of the universe to the Black Guardians Chaos.
He also contended with Omega god of his own anti-matter universe as well as several other god-like entities.
In the most recent episode as of today he defeated an old god with the aid of his companion and essentially straight up told the old god that he had knowledge in his mind that if known could burn out an old god just from knowing it whether this is true or not I hold debatable though the old god did seem to stop after hearing this.
TLDR: the doctor definitely has the feats to stand on his own here. That said this is more just me posting some highlights in my opinion for others who may not be such a fan of the series or those who have no desire to go back and watch some of the older stuff.
Anyways personally I think the team wins. The doctors biggest advantage is for his greatest feats his opponents give him time to plan and often underestimate his ability to get out of things. (Though in the case of the Daleks its actually because they secretly admire the Doctor as the Great Exterminator i.e. the Dalek Asylum) For lesser opponents sure bloodlust would give him the win but against this lineup with stacked prep its fairly one sided imo.
Oh also in an Audio titled "Master" he killed a young time lord and was approached by death to be her champion.... He pushed the position onto The Master.... he's also been cited as saying that he and death were friends as he has had several encounters the last being the 7th doctor iirc.
So I just wanted to say... take that Thanos fanboys... the Doctor turns Death down without even trying.... and accidentally potentially creates one of the worst mass murderers in the who universe besides himself... on top of Rassillon dickery.
Originally posted by Blair Windno wear did I say its a straight up brawl the doctor has access to what ever weapons he feels nesacary in his own universe
Tony is going to be busy hitting on Clara Oswald (hottest companion so far), while the others beat the Doctor. He's not made for a straight up brawl and the team gets more prep.
Originally posted by Uriel005Most of those are just throwing out titles with no feats backing them.
to be fair the satan entity was weakened when the black-hole killed him. Also the Doctor's current enemy "The Great Intelligence" is actually Yog-Sothoth IIRC going all the way back to 5th doctor if my memory serves me correctly of the Cthulhu mythos. btw in the Dr. Who mythos the cthulhu mythos entities are actually similar to galactus in origin as survivors of the previous universe.Furthermore, going back to the 4th doctor he was the champion of the white guardian i.e. the Order of the universe to the Black Guardians Chaos.
He also contended with Omega god of his own anti-matter universe as well as several other god-like entities.
In the most recent episode as of today he defeated an old god with the aid of his companion and essentially straight up told the old god that he had knowledge in his mind that if known could burn out an old god just from knowing it whether this is true or not I hold debatable though the old god did seem to stop after hearing this.
TLDR: the doctor definitely has the feats to stand on his own here. That said this is more just me posting some highlights in my opinion for others who may not be such a fan of the series or those who have no desire to go back and watch some of the older stuff.
Anyways personally I think the team wins. The doctors biggest advantage is for his greatest feats his opponents give him time to plan and often underestimate his ability to get out of things. (Though in the case of the Daleks its actually because they secretly admire the Doctor as the Great Exterminator i.e. the Dalek Asylum) For lesser opponents sure bloodlust would give him the win but against this lineup with stacked prep its fairly one sided imo.
Like I said Satan's only real feats is possession and mind control(to creatures that are very susceptible to it) and eventually getting killed by a black hole. How weakened was he. Do we know for sure he could have tanked the black hole? Also all the Doctor did was use the already made fail safe in the prison.
I've only recently started watching the older stuff though so like I said feat wise I don't know what those names mean.
Not saying the Doctor doesn't have some great moments but nothing I've seen would place him higher on the intelligence scale over Reed or Brainiac, and that they have faced more powerful entities from what I can tell.