Stardust vs WBH

Originally posted by Naija boy
Learn how to read or Just shutup. Your embarassing yourself facepalm

Was the statement about the Dark Dimension being weaker and brittle compared to the 616, incorrect?

Was there no Wish Machine at play?

Was it not something like 4 Gamma Bombs, belched out by FFF, then absorbed by the Hulks, causing them to grow gigantic?

If I lied, or was incorrect about these things, please prove it, before just being rude.

Originally posted by Horrificus
THAT is your argument?
Try proving some of the points to be wrong.

Was the statement about the Dark Dimension being weaker and brittle compared to the 616, incorrect?

Was there no Wish Machine at play?

Was it not something like 4 Gamma Bombs, belched out by FFF, then absorbed by the Hulks, causing them to grow gigantic?

If I lied, or was incorrect about these things, please prove it, before just being rude.

We have every right to say your full with BS 🤨

I deconstructed your claims thoroughly in the other thread.

- The statement about the dark dimension being weaker does not denigrate the feat in any way as the most impressive part of the feat was the characters destroyed. These characters durability was in no way affected y the dark dimension.

-The wishing machine was NOT at play. I DARE you to find an instance that showed that it amped Hulks abilities. You are flat out lying and making things up. Lying=/= argument

-That has no relevance at all. It being 4 gamma bombs that made them grow gigantic on earth does not somehow denigrate there power level or invalidate there displayed feats. Talk about a fallacy of relevance. In your attempts to downplay the hulk by any means you are making a fool of yourself and floating logically unintelligble arguments.

I have shown this across several threads and yet you refuse to let up with this idiocy. so yeah stop embarassing yourself and just shut it.

Originally posted by Horrificus
y don't you freaks just vote WBH as an "Abstract"?
Ignore the fact that he did his greatest stuff in a weak, brittle dimension, while utilizing power from a frigging "Wish Machine".
Hell, the power that supposedly turned them into giants, was something like 4 gamma bombs from Fin Fang Foom.
4 bombs, compared to some of the characters in these forum fights? Really?

I think FFF absorbed more than 4 bombs. He then shot up hulk who absorbed all of it.

What surprises me is that WBH was damaging more inadvertently before getting taken down by a satellite, 😂 but Giant WBH after absorbing all that gamma radiation was able to smash FFF without a hiccup.

Although IIRC strange did say that they will break the planet if they didn't return to DD.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Although IIRC strange did say that they will break the planet if they didn't return to DD.

Originally posted by Diesldude
I think FFF absorbed more than 4 bombs. He then shot up hulk who absorbed all of it.

I had seen it in the story, but it was then confirmed by a certain WBHulk Aficionado.

Originally posted by Horrificus
and how many gamma bombs did the wb family absorb?

Originally posted by TheHulk
^1-4 missles

Originally posted by Naija boy
I deconstructed your claims thoroughly in the other thread.

- The statement about the dark dimension being weaker does not denigrate the feat in any way as the most impressive part of the feat was the characters destroyed. These characters durability was in no way affected y the dark dimension.

-The wishing machine was NOT at play. I DARE you to find an instance that showed that it amped Hulks abilities. You are flat out lying and making things up. Lying=/= argument

Let's try this: I DARE you to prove that I am lying.

With some of this: As a matter of fact, I think YOU are lying when you say that the machine did NOT amp the Hulk. 😱

And a dash of this: Can you prove that I am wrong when I say that the machine was working through the thoughts of all of these characters?

-That has no relevance at all. It being 4 gamma bombs that made them grow gigantic on earth does not somehow denigrate there power level or invalidate there displayed feats. Talk about a fallacy of relevance. In your attempts to downplay the hulk by any means you are making a fool of yourself and floating logically unintelligble arguments.

I have shown this across several threads and yet you refuse to let up with this idiocy. so yeah stop embarassing yourself and just shut it.

Originally posted by Horrificus
If the matter in the Dark Dimension is even weaker than matter in the 616, why did the "Heralds" disintegrate even faster than the weak DD matter?

Oh please. The characters involved disintegrated as they were the first to be hit by the shockwave. Hence we know there death was as a result of the shockwave specifically (which is what caused the planet to explode) with the planets destruction also a side effect of that shockwave. Attempting to denigrate them because they disintegrated prior to the destruction of the planet itself, or faster as you would put it, is reaching of the highest order. Such flimsy reasoning cannot hold up to any kind of logical scrutiny. Superboy prime got koed by a universe buster in which a flipping plant survived. You wouldnt then denigrate the power of the explosion, durability of superboy prime or durability of the characters in that universe because they were outdone (along with the universe itself) by a plant would you? Using the claim that "the characters disintegrated faster than the environment" as an actual argument to downplay them is farcical lowballing and thus further portrays your bias. As if "which one disintegrated faster" would have mattered to the writer facepalm. You have no case here at all. A mod has already told you that these arguments of yours DO NOT fly. Heed his advice and avoid further embarassment and loss of credibility.

The story was written to imply that the wishing machine was at play throughout the entire story, being effected by the thoughts and desires of almost the entire cast! Are you kidding? And, I see you toss that word around an awful lot (lying) when you have somebody who actually disagrees with you. Let's try this: I DARE you to prove that I am lying. With some of this: As a matter of fact, I think YOU are lying when you say that the machine did NOT amp the Hulk. And a dash of this: Can you prove that I am wrong when I say that the machine was working through the thoughts of all of these characters?

Do you know anything about rational argumentation at all? When you make a specific assertion, the burden of proof rests on you and you have to back it up with evidence. You claim that the wishing machine amped Hulk despite the fact that this was NOT shown nor stated anywhere in the entire series. Whenever the wishing machine was in play....it was explicitly referenced, displayed, or mentioned as being in play. In this case, it was not but you are claiming that it was while not providing any form of support for it whatsoever. I even dared you to actually provide some evidence for your claim and yet you provide nothing. You ARE flat out lying about this and its taking away any form of intellectual integrity this discussion once had.

In any rational argument I shouldnt have to prove a negative, but this definitely NOT a rational argument and you for damn well sure are not a reasoned debater. So I will prove that Hulk was NOT amped by the well anyway just to underscore the emptiness of your position. Here Hulk claims specifically that he had been
holding back throughout his run as WWH all the way to the issue right before he gets into the dark dimension but that by dawn, he wouldnt hold back any longer.
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Hulk%20feats/Hulkmentionshowhewasholdingback.jpg
So there we have Hulk directly attributing his actions in the dark dimension to his unleashing of HIS OWN POWER. No wishing well amp is indicated anywhere in the comic. You continuing with this delusion is straight trolling.

irst of all, you spelled "unintelligible" wrong. That's a bad start. Second, I am just hopping on the band wagon of Hulk fans that are up-playing how powerful the Hulks were from absorbing ALL OF THAT RADIATION. You enjoy using the word "quantify", so I thought I would attempt to quantify just how much radiation they absorbed. And, "trans" level, it ain't. Some people might even say that it isn't even "herald" level.

Attacking irrelevant spelling errors is probably the best way to go since this whole debating thing is not your strong point. The amount of radiation they absorbed is irrelevant as is that entire incident in relation to the feats performed in the Dark dimension and the power level it displays. You are obviously just look for something else to denigrate regardless of how irrelevant it is. Try focusing on the uphill task of actually supporting your ill conceived arguments substantively rather than floating red herrings to try and distract from the issue at hand.

I am not seeing where you have deconstructed anything. Unless, you have such a high view of yourself, that you feel your opinion, alone, negates the possibility of all other arguments.

Ive deconstructed the horrendous reasoning behing your arguments several times. These arent even arguments as you refuse to actually back them up with anything that happened in the comic.

Originally posted by TheHulk
😐 You must be new...

Why ? All threads with WBH BFR is off and fight restricted to H2H.

^Again you must be new....

maybe we should ask the mods to rule over this nonsense that the hulk was amped by the well and the characters in the DD were somehow weaker

Hulk wins.

Originally posted by 753
maybe we should ask the mods to rule over this nonsense that the hulk was amped by the well and the characters in the DD were somehow weaker

The satellite that took out WBH was prepped by Strange, Tony Stark, Beast, and Professor X. Don't think I need to say anymore about that. WWH fought the Mindless Ones in that same dimension without destroying the planet or causing any type of physical damage to the dark dimension. Thor, Surfer, Strange and Dormammu (while going all out), Umar hurling blasts at Thor so powerful that it was stated he was being hit by multiples of planets and guess what, after all of this, the dark dimension didn't even suffer a scratch.

Let's move on. Lol at people bringing up Fing Fang being stomped on and the planet not exploding...Strange clearly states that if WBH kept fighting, he would wreck the planet. Also, Hulk while being in the dark dimension states that he can finally go all out without endangering billions of people.

Also, I want someone to prove that Hulk was amped off the wishing well.

Originally posted by carver9
The satellite that took out WBH was prepped by Strange, Tony Stark, Beast, and Professor X. Don't think I need to say anymore about that. WWH fought the Mindless Ones in that same dimension without destroying the planet or causing any type of physical damage to the dark dimension. Thor, Surfer, Strange and Dormammu (while going all out), Umar hurling blasts at Thor so powerful that it was stated he was being hit by multiples of planets and guess what, after all of this, the dark dimension didn't even suffer a scratch.

Let's move on. Lol at people bringing up Fing Fang being stomped on and the planet not exploding...Strange clearly states that if WBH kept fighting, he would wreck the planet. Also, Hulk while being in the dark dimension states that he can finally go all out without endangering billions of people.

Also, I want someone to prove that Hulk was amped off the wishing well.

Quick question to all my buds that are trying to take away from the dark dimension ft. Here we have Dormammu and Strange fighting...going all out. Why didn't the Dark Dimension explode. Dormammu is an elite Skyfather and strange with prep is in the high trans tier class.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/The%20Dread%20Dormammu/DrStrangeVsDormammuInTheir1stFight1.jpg
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/The%20Dread%20Dormammu/DrStrangeVsDormammuInTheir1stFight2.jpg
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/The%20Dread%20Dormammu/DrStrangeVsDormammuInTheir1stFight3.jpg

His battle against a prepped Strange drained him so much that he was unable to create his barrier and needed assistance from Strange.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/The%20Dread%20Dormammu/DormammuHasHisOwnMoralCode1.jpg
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/The%20Dread%20Dormammu/DormammuHasHisOwnMoralCode2.jpg

Please provide scans with your answer.

Thanks.

Originally posted by carver9
Quick question to all my buds that are trying to take away from the dark dimension ft. Here we have Dormammu and Strange fighting...going all out. Why didn't the Dark Dimension explode. Dormammu is an elite Skyfather and strange with prep is in the high trans tier class.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/The%20Dread%20Dormammu/DrStrangeVsDormammuInTheir1stFight1.jpg
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/The%20Dread%20Dormammu/DrStrangeVsDormammuInTheir1stFight2.jpg
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/The%20Dread%20Dormammu/DrStrangeVsDormammuInTheir1stFight3.jpg

His battle against a prepped Strange drained him so much that he was unable to create his barrier and needed assistance from Strange.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/The%20Dread%20Dormammu/DormammuHasHisOwnMoralCode1.jpg
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/The%20Dread%20Dormammu/DormammuHasHisOwnMoralCode2.jpg

Please provide scans with your answer.

Thanks.

That is, unless you are now going to state that WBHulk was more powerful than Dr. Strange and Dormammu combined...

Is that what you are implying Mr. Carver? I hope not. Because, you seem like a decent guy and aside from your usual Hulk-wanking, I actually don't consider you to be one of the foaming-at-the-mouth Hulk freaks.

Provide a scan stating Hulk was amped off of the wishing well. I can provide a scan saying the opposite but I want YOU to back up your claim. By the way, WBH already outperformed Umar and she was amped off of Dormammu power.

Hello.

Horrific..prove it.

Originally posted by carver9
Provide a scan stating Hulk was amped off of the wishing well. I can provide a scan saying the opposite but I want YOU to back up your claim. By the way, WBH already outperformed Umar and she was amped off of Dormammu power.