Nightcrawler is the ace in the Xmen team. Wolverine can be knocked out by one of Hawkeye's exploding arrows. Cyclops has powerful blasts, but it won't get through Cap's shield and last time I checked, he wasn't exactly such a great h2h fighter. Once someone gets close to him he's out.
Nightcrawler on the other hand, I can't see how the others can knock him out. Then again, I can't see him doing anything to IM either. Hawkeye he can take out. Cap he'll have trouble with due to superior reflexes... but still possible. IM... what's he gonna do?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Do the X-men in this thread even have feats of damaging something with the durability of Iron-man's armor?
Adamantium can cut through anything, so Logan can pierce it. The armor isn't that thick, and he knocked out Blob with an elbow, who previously blocked a tank shell point blank with his hand.
There's also the fact that he blocked Deadpool's optic beams with his claws, which shows he's fast enough to block repulsors(at least once or twice in rapid succesion), and he can block concussive energy with his claws.
Cyclops punched a huge hole in a building when Toad ripped his visor off. With a tight beam he punched a blast door that was several inches(maybe a foot) thick and probably made of steel or something similar.
Knocked it out of the frame and nearly crumpled it, while knocking it across a room. Blasted Sabretooth out of the Statue of Liberty through the stone and metal work, dozens of feet before he closed his eyes.
His blast nearly overloaded Jean(forcing her to go Phoenix), and the result caused the entire dam to collapse after some time. He also blasted a humvee across that same room, demolishing it.
His beams are also hot enough to melt stone and metal, shown in Origins when he punched through a stone ceiling, and demolish half of a school.
Deadpool's beams also tore through a nuclear reactor(which was dozens of feet of concrete and steel) like butter and superheated Logan's claws to the point they were glowing. Beams are too fast for Hawkeye to dodge, and too fast for Cap to dodge based on what he's shown so far. Even IM would have trouble dodging, and Cyke can just move his head back and forth. And considering Chitauri blasters damaged Iron Man pretty good, to say Cyke's cant is you trying to downplay him.
Kurt can't hurt him, but he's more than fast enough and strong enough to hurt Cap and Hawkeye. Considering he was sending fully grown men flying across the oval office with punches and kicks, and was moving so fast they were in slow motion.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Nightcrawler is the ace in the Xmen team. Wolverine can be knocked out by one of Hawkeye's exploding arrows. Cyclops has powerful blasts, but it won't get through Cap's shield and last time I checked, he wasn't exactly such a great h2h fighter. Once someone gets close to him he's out.Nightcrawler on the other hand, I can't see how the others can knock him out. Then again, I can't see him doing anything to IM either. Hawkeye he can take out. Cap he'll have trouble with due to superior reflexes... but still possible. IM... what's he gonna do?
Hawkeye has 1(maybe 2) exploding arrow(s), and Logan has dealt with Gambit's explosions just fine. And as I said, Cyke doesn't have to get through Cap's shield, he can just blast around it. Or blast the ground in front of him. And H2H he's a pretty good fighter, but he didn't get to display it much. He's not on Cap's level, but Hawkeye wouldn't just take him down right away.
And NC is far superior to Cap in terms of speed and reaction time, and comparable in strength. Logan and Cyke can take down IM though.
Originally posted by Placidity
Cap doesn't have superior reflexes.NC can teleport all of them into the ground.
He needs to be able to see where he's teleporting so that he can teleport, in X2 he got lucky that he managed to teleport him and Storm into the fake cerebro room with Xavier and I think it took a lot out of him so I don't think he'll be teleporting anyone into the ground
Originally posted by steverules_2
He needs to be able to see where he's teleporting so that he can teleport, in X2 he got lucky that he managed to teleport him and Storm into the fake cerebro room with Xavier and I think it took a lot out of him so I don't think he'll be teleporting anyone into the ground
I don't see how that shows he can't teleport someone into the ground. I'm not being sarcastic, I don't see your argument anywhere in there.
NC teleports to the space just in front of the ground/wall/tree. The person he is holding in front of him will be displaced into the object.
Originally posted by Silent Master
What feats do these X-men have of damaging something as durable as Iron-man's armror?
Considering Chitauri blasters were damaging his armor, and they did far less damage than one of Scott's beams, he can damage the armor. Simple.
And Wolverine can cut through anything. It might take some doing, but Iron Man won't be the exception since his armor doesn't have shields.
Those two can put the hurt on Iron Man.
Regardless of what it is, Chitauri blasts did damage to the armor, and if you compare Cyclop's blast to a Chitauri blast, his does more damage. So yes, he'd be able to damage the armor.
I believe it was stated in Origins, and I think it was stated by Magneto at least once. But come on man, you're really going to try and downplay Adamantium when we all know it's indestructible and can cut through just about anything?
How about we compare his blasts to the things that were able to damage the armor. Because that's how comparisons are made. If I see a bullet go through armor plating, I know in comparison it'll go through a person. Chitauri blasts hurt Iron Man. And Scott's blasts comparatively are much more powerful and damaging. So he can hurt Iron Man.
And you're really going to argue Wolverine can't cut Iron Man? In that same universe, Adamantium is known to be indestructible and cut through anything. IM's armor isn't that thick, Logan can cut through it. It probably won't be like a hot knife through butter, but to say he outright can't is just wrong.
Their blasts were barely damaging cars and all the feats I listed for Tony's armor durability are far more impressive than that, which makes them doing any damage to him an extremely low showing and we don't argue based on low showings.
We go by feats on this board and movie Wolverine has zero feats of damaging anything with Iron-man's level durability.