Punisher vs Catwoman

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Don't those street level criminals have extensive training themselves to beat something like a navy seal in H2H or some power that aids in their defense/offense that cat woman doesn't posses.

And yes I'm talking about somebody who has trained. But that's my point. Not having the title of Navy Seal does not automatically mean you lack skill.

I have beaten people with military backgrounds in a fight. I have known people who have done similar things because they knew what they were doing just as much as the Military guy did.

Originally posted by 753
facepalmthere is nothing about military cqc training that civilians can't have access to. in fact, the cqc systems of most countries' armed forces are taught in MA academies open to the public, though many will register practicioners and exclude people with criminal records or teach slightly toned down versions of the systems. it's easy to hire muscle with decent military-like h2h training.

if this were regular military your 100% correct this is not regular military training nor is special forces the seals r the elite of the elite they dont do regular mma training that the public has access too and frank is the top trained guys in the us military your dumb if u think a street thug is taking on this level of training ever in ne h2h combat your literally retarded

Punisher wins, but not as easily as some would think.

Besides, Frank's not as good as he is just because he's a Navy Seal. Guy's a psychopath that's trained extensively ever since he decided to wage war on crime.

In comics, and in reality, being in the military or having served doesn't automatically mean you're an expert in h2h. Frank's a beast in h2h because of his feats, not his background.

Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
if this were regular military your 100% correct this is not regular military training nor is special forces the seals r the elite of the elite they dont do regular mma training that the public has access too and frank is the top trained guys in the us military your dumb if u think a street thug is taking on this level of training ever in ne h2h combat your literally retarded

You do realize that there really isn't any secret special H2H training that any military organization can do that most martial arts haven't already done.

You do realize there are people walking the streets that in much better shape than most Seals. There are some people walking the street that have much more fighting experience than a Seal as well.

Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
if this were regular military your 100% correct this is not regular military training nor is special forces the seals r the elite of the elite they dont do regular mma training that the public has access too and frank is the top trained guys in the us military your dumb if u think a street thug is taking on this level of training ever in ne h2h combat your literally retarded

Originally posted by Newjak
You do realize people have been training and perfecting how to turn the human body into a bloody mess long before the Seals were a thing right.

You do realize that there really isn't any secret special H2H training that any military organization can do that most martial arts haven't already done.

You do realize there are people walking the streets that in much better shape than most Seals. There are some people walking the street that have much more fighting experience than a Seal as well.

i realize that there were people fighting before the seals were born but u have no idea how much training into becoming one mental and phsyical its wway beyond and normal street thug could ever handle it takes a special kind of warrior so your dead wrong if u think a straight off the street thug doesnt just get man handled

Originally posted by Katya
For everyone saying Punisher will use bullets (even though she can dodge them anyway) and knives, this is h2h only, no weapons.

Punisher. Easily.

Originally posted by 753
christ, you're an idiot. there are no secret techniques special forces of any military force on the planet are sitting on that civilians cant have access to. real life isnt a steven seagal movie

no u just have no idea how much more goes into that training then a common street thug having it tough on the streets its mentally and physically demanding beyond normal human limits they are stronger faster bigger stronger then the normal thugs on the street and yes there training is a lot more extensive then what u can find just a laying around in normal society this is fact not saying they are jiujitsu masters or kempo masters anything like that but for a h2h fight a street thug has 0 chance of beating a navy seal ever EVER h2h

Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
no u just have no idea how much more goes into that training then a common street thug having it tough on the streets its mentally and physically demanding beyond normal human limits they are stronger faster bigger stronger then the normal thugs on the street and yes there training is a lot more extensive then what u can find just a laying around in normal society this is fact not saying they are jiujitsu masters or kempo masters anything like that but for a h2h fight a street thug has 0 chance of beating a navy seal ever EVER h2h

woah! that is like, so hardcore, they are uber fight masters!

Originally posted by Oliver North
woah! that is like, so hardcore, they are uber fight masters!

since ur such a big tough guy challenge one to a fight n let him cave in ur face then lol i mean u have no idea waht goes into that and how extensive the training is and ne one who thinks a street thug is capaable of winning a fight is a moron ur just another idiot to me

Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
since ur such a big tough guy challenge one to a fight n let him cave in ur face then lol i mean u have no idea waht goes into that and how extensive the training is and ne one who thinks a street thug is capaable of winning a fight is a moron ur just another idiot to me

ya, I'm mocking you, not Seals

/slow clap

Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
no u just have no idea how much more goes into that training then a common street thug having it tough on the streets its mentally and physically demanding beyond normal human limits they are stronger faster bigger stronger then the normal thugs on the street and yes there training is a lot more extensive then what u can find just a laying around in normal society this is fact not saying they are jiujitsu masters or kempo masters anything like that but for a h2h fight a street thug has 0 chance of beating a navy seal ever EVER h2h

Originally posted by 753
No. Just no.

yup ur just to dumb to realize it

I'm just thankful that the majority knows and agrees with what I said. I was beginning to feel like I was in the Twilight Zone.

Anybody notice how he didn't have an answer to my last statement?

Originally posted by 753
christ, you're an idiot. there are no secret techniques special forces of any military force on the planet are sitting on that civilians cant have access to. real life isnt a steven seagal movie

God, thank you

Originally posted by Katya
For everyone saying Punisher will use bullets (even though she can dodge them anyway) and knives, this is h2h only, no weapons.

Ah, I was going to solidly support Punisher until I saw this (which actually hurts Catwoman as well).

Ill still support Frank to beat Selina in a HTH fight, but its much closer than if they were both fully equipped.

Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
since ur such a big tough guy challenge one to a fight n let him cave in ur face then lol i mean u have no idea waht goes into that and how extensive the training is and ne one who thinks a street thug is capaable of winning a fight is a moron ur just another idiot to me

I'm a former army combatives instructor, the top level of which was formed by civilian contractors, not SF, not Seals, not Rangers...

Not to mention civilians don't need to meet height/weight standards or pass drug tests, so yeah

300 lb. Meth head > 165lbs seal
Sorry but that's the truth

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Ok I'm going to to kill this argument right now,

I'm a former army combatives instructor, the top level of which was formed by civilian contractors, not SF, not Seals, not Rangers...

Not to mention civilians don't need to meet height/weight standards or pass drug tests, so yeah

300 lb. Meth head > 165lbs seal
Sorry but that's the truth

Yep