Luke Cage vs Shang Chi

Somehow owning Doombots does not impress me, even Blade did that.

Originally posted by cdtm
Cap's shield, though.

And Cap's totaled robots with his bare hands before. He can probably beat up Luke Cage too.

If that happens in a comic, it's PIS and a result of Cap's Jobber Aura.

Originally posted by KingD19
If that happens in a comic, it's PIS and a result of Cap's Jobber Aura.

Bare handed Steve would be hard pressed to defeat Luke and I wouldn't oppose so much Luke winning. But with his standard equipment/Shield. He can take Luke out and the majority of the time, I think. His shield strikes is like a mini Iron fist tech.

Even Wonder Man admitted he got hurt by Steve's shield throw...

So did Voidtry.. did more damage than all of the Avengers combined attacks.. and didnt he harm Galactus at some point..?

Originally posted by SamZED
So did Voidtry.. did more damage than all of the Avengers combined attacks.. and didnt he harm Galactus at some point..?

He was amped by Norn Stones when he fought Voidtry.

He threatened Galactus with the Ultimate Nullifier, other than that there's just a fanboy statement that he gave Galactus a wedgie, but he was clearly lying/fooling around.

Forget Shang for a minute.

Does anyone think Danny can take Cage, without an IF amp?

Can Danny even hurt him, without an IF?

The feats are out there.. Wrecking Crew, Warhawk, Cage. But, they're often contradicted in other stories..

Can he hit as hard as Spidey, without an IF? As hard as Cap? DD?

Here's a direct comparison of Shang and Cage vs the same villain:

Shang managed to hurt the gorilla body (Which was taking shots from Cage), and cut to the chase on the human head a lot sooner then Cage did.

Only problem with that comparison is that Cage was incredibly varied in his early days after only one steel skin treatment. He was roughly Class 3(officially), and catching a revolver bullet made it feel like it nearly tore his hand off. Yet he beat Doom so bad he was begging for mercy, etc....

Current Cage has had fights with Hiroim, Namor, Juggernaut, Iron-Clad(one shotted), Rhino, etc, etc, etc...

Still current Cage would oneshot that guy with a shot to the body or head.

Gorillas tend to be superhuman (not just barely above human, way more than that) in the MU, just like in DC.

Originally posted by cdtm
Forget Shang for a minute.

Does anyone think Danny can take Cage, without an IF amp?

Can Danny even hurt him, without an IF?

The feats are out there.. Wrecking Crew, Warhawk, Cage. But, they're often contradicted in other stories..

Can he hit as hard as Spidey, without an IF? As hard as Cap? DD?

I don't think he can hit as hard as Spidey, without a IF. There are feats out there but even Batman and Cap have feats that our out there. And Cap's tend to be constantly as well.

But I don't think its about that, since Dannys fights with his peers like Daredevil, Cap, Logan, etc doesn't show case way above them outside of the IF tech that is.

But it's a moot point with Danny anyways since he can use the IF tech more then one time now a days and easily too boot.