Imhotep vs Voldemort

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Originally posted by juggerman
Completely different. Imhotep had his immortality taken away from him both times and then was defeated. Voldemort was defeated with his "near immortality" intact. Voldemort also has no "immortality taking" magical attacks. He can also be KO'd while Tep can't. Voldy loses

EDIT: Would also like to point out that it took the magic of "gods" to take away Imhotep's power. It took children to take away Voldemort's.

yes, in ways they are. Firstly, Voldemort gave himself immortality whereas Imhotep was cursed/tortured into it. One magical attack can take it away not the same with Voldemort's. Crucio can defeat him or Avada Kedavra. Imhotep has never resisted specific magic as Robard will attest to.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort has specific magic designed to kill and torture. I'm glad you agree with me.

Back to you just assuming Voldermort's spells will work on Imhotep. Might as well argue that any crystal-like substance can affect Superman, cos we see kryptonite doing so. Kryptonite is specific to Superman, just as that depowering spell was to Imhotep. It was magic from the Egyptian pantheon.

So back to square one, you made the claim, prove it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
yes, in ways they are. Firstly, Voldemort gave himself immortality whereas Imhotep was cursed/tortured into it. One magical attack can take it away not the same with Voldemort's. Crucio can defeat him or Avada Kedavra. Imhotep has never resisted specific magic as Robard will attest to.

Voldy gave himself "near immortality". Imhotep was given "immortality by the Egyptian gods, who in turn could take it away, which they did. Voldemort has not ever shown to be able to take away immortality or affect the magic of deities.

Quanchi likes to assume Voldermort can do anything and is all powerful. It's just what he does.

Originally posted by Robtard
Back to you just assuming Voldermort's spells will work on Imhotep. Might as well argue that any crystal-like substance can affect Superman, cos we see kryptonite doing so. Kryptonite is specific to Superman, just as that depowering spell was to Imhotep. It was magic from the Egyptian pantheon.

So back to square one, you made the claim, prove it.

Crucio tortures its victim. If you feel it won't work you need to prove it since we already know what Crucio does.

What magic has Imhotep resisted ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Crucio tortures its victim. If you feel it won't work you need to prove it since we already know what Crucio does.

What magic has Imhotep resisted ?

Bullets kill people. We already know what they do too, and what they didn't do to Tep

Originally posted by Robtard
Quanchi likes to assume Voldermort can do anything and is all powerful. It's just what he does.

Yes I've noticed

Originally posted by quanchi112
Crucio tortures its victim. If you feel it won't work you need to prove it since we already know what Crucio does.

What magic has Imhotep resisted ?

IIRC, Imhotep in his immortal form doesn't feel pain. Hard to tourture someone when they can't feel pain.

What magic has affected Imhotep? God magic that robs him of his powers/immortality, exactly. Try harder?

Imhotep turns into a sandstorm and it's over.

Originally posted by juggerman
Voldy gave himself "near immortality". Imhotep was given "immortality by the Egyptian gods, who in turn could take it away, which they did. Voldemort has not ever shown to be able to take away immortality or affect the magic of deities.
Voldemort was immortal but there are methods to make him mortal. There are also methods in Imhoteps movie to take his away. Magic from deities is just a word. Quit being impressed I mean I saw the scorpion kings army. Laughable. Imhotep resisted no magic. If you think he can prove how. The guy is great against mortal attacks not magical ones.

Originally posted by Robtard
IIRC, Imhotep in his immortal form doesn't feel pain. Hard to tourture someone when they can't feel pain.

What magic has affected Imhotep? God magic that robs him of his powers/immortality, exactly. Try harder?

Imhotep turns into a sandstorm and it's over.

there is no actual pain. Prove that. It tortures anyone it hits but they aren't really being hurt. Magic took his soul and magic that took away his powers. Both attacks beat him. Voldemort's specific magic works. You agreed and now want to pretend it doesn't.

Originally posted by quanchi112
there is no actual pain. Prove that. It tortures anyone it hits but they aren't really being hurt.

Magic took his soul and magic that took away his powers. Both attacks beat him. Voldemort's specific magic works. You agreed and now want to pretend it doesn't.

He doesn't show any and damage doesn't slow him down, iirc, he smiled after being shot. So you need to prove a spell designed to cause pain will affect a guy immune to pain. Prove it.

Yes, specific magic. Show me a spell that Voldermort has that can take away someone's [god cursed] immortality and powers? You're making this claim, prove it.

Imhotep turns into a sandstorm and it's over. <--- you have no counter for this. 😂

Originally posted by Robtard
He doesn't show any and damage doesn't slow him down, iirc, he smiled after being shot. So you need to prove a spell designed to cause pain will affect a guy immune to pain. Prove it.

Yes, specific magic. Show me a spell that Voldermort has that can take away someone's [god cursed] immortality and powers? You're making this claim, prove it.

Imhotep turns into a sandstorm and it's over. <--- you have no counter for this. 😂

Crucio is different than real pain. There is nothing happening to you physically so it's entirely different.

I never said Voldemort can take away his powers. I said he can either torture or kill him with specific magic designed to do so.

Hahah. Voldemort himself can possess him or simply fly/apparate.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Crucio is different than real pain. There is nothing happening to you physically so it's entirely different.

I never said Voldemort can take away his powers. I said he can either torture or kill him with specific magic designed to do so.

Hahah. Voldemort himself can possess him or simply fly/apparate.

Prove it will affect a guy who's immortal and doesn't feel pain. Stop claiming and prove it already.

See above on your torture claim and prove Voldermort can kill an immortal being. You're making claims without proving anything.

Prove Voldermort can possess a sand storm. Leaving isn't winning, thank you for admitting that Voldermort's only chance is running away.

Originally posted by Robtard
Prove it will affect a guy who's immortal and doesn't feel pain. Stop claiming and prove it already.

See above on your torture claim and prove Voldermort can kill an immortal being. You're making claims without proving anything.

Prove Voldermort can possess a sand storm. Leaving isn't winning, thank you for admitting that Voldermort's only chance is running away.

I don't have to. You need to prove it won't work. You acknowledged he can't overcome specific magic now you're back pedaling. Imhotep can be killed by magic. Normal weaponry cannot do so. He also has a mind and can feel emotions as evidenced by both movies and his love for his bride.

Voldemort wins with specific magic.

Originally posted by juggerman
Completely different. Imhotep had his immortality taken away from him both times and then was defeated. Voldemort was defeated with his "near immortality" intact.

😕

WTF movies series were you watching? Pretty sure there were 7 horcruxes that had to be destroyed before Vold could be killed.
You can't accuse of Imhotep being killed only because a MacGuffin was allowed and then ignore the horcruxes, which were essential to Vold's defeat. I can't allow such ignorance in my thread.

Now Vold's "immortality" is questionable, because while he was definitely immortal in a "magic" sense, even J.K. Rowling has said bullets>magic, so while Vold may be immune to magic, I don't know if he is immune to physical attacks like Imhotep is. But then again, Vold can fly high in the sky at high speeds and cast spells at the same time and if O' Connell could evade Sandstorm-Imhotep in an airplane and Water-Imhotep in an air-balloon, I'm pretty sure flying-smoke Vold could too.

I'm the OP. I have no say in the debate. Decide for yourselves.

Originally posted by juggerman
Bullets kill people. We already know what they do too, and what they didn't do to Tep
that's a mortal weapon and not specific magic. They also can wound they don't always kill. Imhotep goes down to specific magic again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't have to. You need to prove it won't work.

You acknowledged he can't overcome specific magic now you're back pedaling. Imhotep can be killed by magic.

Normal weaponry cannot do so. He also has a mind and can feel emotions as evidenced by both movies and his love for his bride.

Voldemort wins with specific magic.

Incorrect. You made the claims; you need to support them. If I say "I can fly", it's up to me to prove I can; not for you to prove I can't. So you dodged yet again to prove your claim.

Strawman. I said specific magic was able to turn him mortal and depower him. It's up to you to prove Voldermort can do this with his magic. You dodged yet again to prove your claim.

Prove Voldermort can affect Imhotep's mind while he's a sand storm. You dodged yet again to prove your claim.

You failed to show which "specific magic" Voldermort has that can affect and de-power Imhotep. As it is, Voldermort gets chocked out in a sand storm, passes out and possibly soils his knickers. That's a win for Imhotep, the superior magic-user.

Originally posted by Robtard
Incorrect. You made the claims; you need to support them. If I say "I can fly", it's up to me to prove I can; not for you to prove I can't. So you dodged yet again to prove your claim.

Strawman. I said specific magic was able to turn him mortal and depower him. It's up to you to prove Voldermort can do this with his magic. You dodged yet again to prove your claim.

Prove Voldermort can affect Imhotep's mind while he's a sand storm. You dodged yet again to prove your claim.

You failed to show which "specific magic" Voldermort has that can affect and de-power Imhotep. As it is, Voldermort gets chocked out in a sand storm, passes out and possibly soils his knickers. That's a win for Imhotep, the superior magic-user.

You already know he can fly and can use these spells. You didn't dispute the attack so why would I prove it. You need to prove it won't work on him.

You said specific magic works on him but now want to pretend Voldemort's doesn't just because you don't like him. Imhotep is afraid of cats so let's not talk about fear. 😂

Voldemort can either possess, torture, or kill him. You act like he didn't feel emotions but the guy was so in love with his bride it was coming out of his ears. Voldemort clearly wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You already know he can fly and can use these spells. You didn't dispute the attack so why would I prove it. You need to prove it won't work on him.

You said specific magic works on him but now want to pretend Voldemort's doesn't just because you don't like him. Imhotep is afraid of cats so let's not talk about fear. 😂

Voldemort can either possess, torture, or kill him. You act like he didn't feel emotions but the guy was so in love with his bride it was coming out of his ears. Voldemort clearly wins.

Red herring tactic. You claimed Voldermort could win with Crucio. It's been shown how this is unlikely and you have still to prove it will work. So another dodge.

And you need to prove that Voldermort can de-power Imhotep which his spells. You haven't. So another dodge.

You've dodge-dance around proving that Voldermort can possess a sand storm several times now. You've dodge-dance around proving the torure several times now. You've dodge-dance around proving that Voldermort can kill an immortal several times now.

So since you've yet to prove a claim you've made, this stands: As it is, Voldermort gets chocked out in a sand storm, passes out and possibly soils his knickers. That's a win for Imhotep, the superior magic-user.

Originally posted by Robtard
Red herring tactic. You claimed Voldermort could win with Crucio. It's been shown how this is unlikely and you have still to prove it will work. So another dodge.

And you need to prove that Voldermort can de-power Imhotep which his spells. You haven't. So another dodge.

You've dodge-dance around proving that Voldermort can possess a sand storm several times now. You've dodge-dance around proving the torure several times now. You've dodge-dance around proving that Voldermort can kill an immortal several times now.

So since you've yet to prove a claim you've made, this stands: As it is, Voldermort gets chocked out in a sand storm, passes out and possibly soils his knickers. That's a win for Imhotep, the superior magic-user.

Crucio is a specific magical attack it isn't the same as an attack which inflicts physical damage on someone. We've already seen Imhoteps soul leave his body. That's what happens when the Avada Kedavra hits. Lol.

Voldemort can disappear so the sandstorm can't ever hit him. Imhotep needs to maintain concentration to do so anyway. A kiss got him to lose it before. Fears cats. Lol.

Voldemort flies above sandstorm and laughs his ass off. An outdated shitty plane can practically do so. Voldemort wins easily. Voldemort earned his magic it wasn't just given to him as a curse. 😂