Imhotep vs Voldemort

Originally posted by juggerman
Specific magic works on them. I see you are intent on ignoring this part

There does since the only magic that ever worked on him was magic specific intended to strip him of his power, by the very being that gave him his power to begin with.

I is not cornered since the second movie proves his "soul" is not the source of his power since, according to you, it was taken in the first.

Negative mon frere

He's never faced anyone outside this magic world. Mortal weapons don't work but we see magic works. Based on your no limits fallacy no ones magic can hurt him outside his own universes. It's laughable.

Without his soul he is mortal and he can also be depowered. It's clear.

Specific magic works.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I know Anck Su Namun's soul was put into Meela Nais' body, so it is possible for Imhotep to have a soul.

It should be noted that Avada Kevadra isn't reliant on removing people's souls to kill them. Dementor's Kisses rob people of their souls but don't kill them, so having a soul isn't a necessity to live, or to die for that matter.

Originally posted by Lestov16
It should be noted that Avada Kevadra isn't reliant on removing people's souls to kill them. Dementor's Kisses rob people of their souls but don't kill them, so having a soul isn't a necessity to live, or to die for that matter.

And you have yet to prove that AV can kill an undead immortal being. Dance now.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The whole entire world of Harry Pottermagic predicates on specific magic. If you want to kill someone you don't use Crucio.

He's never faced anyone outside this magic world. Mortal weapons don't work but we see magic works. Based on your no limits fallacy no ones magic can hurt him outside his own universes. It's laughable.

Without his soul he is mortal and he can also be depowered. It's clear.

Specific magic works.

Yet Crucio and even AK wouldn't work on Inferi. So as i said you are ignoring the point, and now you're twisting it.

I never said no other magic can hurt him. He's already "dead" so AK wouldn't kill him, and he doesn't feel pain so Curcio wouldn't do spit. Besides AK has alreadly proven to not kill an "immortal" iyo so by your logic it would not kill Imhotep.

Without his powers he is mortal. His soul was never taken

Agreed. But Voldemort does not have the magic needed

Originally posted by Lestov16
I know Anck Su Namun's soul was put into Meela Nais' body, so it is possible for Imhotep to have a soul.

Anck Su Namun also was not a cursed mummy sent to destroy the world. She was simply brought back to life.

Originally posted by Lestov16
It should be noted that Avada Kevadra isn't reliant on removing people's souls to kill them. Dementor's Kisses rob people of their souls but don't kill them, so having a soul isn't a necessity to live, or to die for that matter.

Oh crap i think you have just completely destroyed quan's point in one fell swoop. His entire premise was "AK removes soul and that's what kills" yet people do live without one in HP.

Should be noted that Phoenixes are immortal creatures who are immune to the killing curse only because they are reborn. Should also be noted that Inferi have no souls, and are literally just walking corpses with heightened durability. Imhotep actually has a soul, so it's not the same.

Originally posted by juggerman
Oh crap i think you have just completely destroyed quan's point in one fell swoop. His entire premise was "AK removes soul and that's what kills" yet people do live without one in HP.

I'm trying to determine what HP qualifies as "living" and "undead" and which category Imhotep fits in, because he sort of fits into both. IDK if he counts as an "immortal undead" by HP standards though. Being immune to physical attacks doesn't make you immune to magic.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Should be noted that Phoenixes are immortal creatures who are immune to the killing curse only because they are reborn. Should also be noted that Inferi have no souls, and are literally just walking corpses with heightened durability. Imhotep actually has a soul, so it's not the same.

How do you know he has one? The thing taken from him at the end of part 1 was not his soul.

I know he has a soul because if he didn't he'd be aimlessly walking in circles like a reanimated corpse rather than pursuing his Imhotepian goals

Originally posted by Lestov16
I know he has a soul because if he didn't he'd be aimlessly walking in circles like a reanimated corpse rather than pursuing his Imhotepian goals

You don't know that's the case for The Mummy characters tho. He's a monster at this point so a soul may not be needed. Many incarnations of Dracula depict him being soulless yet he is not walking around in circles.

And to be fair all he was really doing in the first movie was fulfilling he's intended goal of destroying the world. He really didn't have his own agenda. In the second one he was doing the same but realised he needed the army of Anubis to concur the world for some reason. He was just fulfilling his curse.

But even if we assume he did have a soul, if it had been taken at the end of part one wouldn't he have been a mindless corpse and, as you put it, be aimlessly walking in circles?

He was cursed with destroying the world. That doesn't make it his sole obsession. His main goal was getting nookie from his girl. You need a soul to have goals like that. And his soul wasn't taken at the end of P1. Only his powers were. That's why Rick stabbed him.

Originally posted by Lestov16
He was cursed with destroying the world. That doesn't make it his sole obsession. His main goal was getting nookie from his girl. You need a soul to have goals like that. And his soul wasn't taken at the end of P1. Only his powers were. That's why Rick stabbed him.

Glad you agree his soul was not taken. His primary goal was destruction, his gf was secondary imo but i will agree it's very likely he has a soul. Either way i see it being very unlikely that Voldemort can put him down or even overly harm him with the current conditions. Unless he has knowledge of the curse and a way to strip Imhotep of his power he loses. If you took away Tep's immortality and Mort's pseudo immortality then it becomes spitey but the other way around imo.

That's the thing though. Imhotep is only immortal in the sense that he is immune to physical attacks, and Vold is only immortal in the sense that he is immune to magic attacks. Personally, I think it comes down to either Vold flying high in the sky and spellbombing Tep, or Tep going sandmode and grinding Vold's flesh off. could go either way IMO.

Originally posted by Lestov16
That's the thing though. Imhotep is only immortal in the sense that he is immune to physical attacks, and Vold is only immortal in the sense that he is immune to magic attacks. Personally, I think it comes down to either Vold flying high in the sky and spellbombing Tep, or Tep going sandmode and grinding Vold's flesh off. could go either way IMO.

Except we see in HP that some magical/undead beings are immune to most types of magic and need spells specifically designed to combat them to be beaten. Imhotep would not be felled by AK and Crucio like normal people would be and fire hasn't harmed him either. There's no telling what it would take to hurt him magically or if Voldemort could even pull off something that might.

Imhotep on the other hand has a plethora of powers that would easily harm or defeat Voldemort, such as the sand thing you just mentioned or simply using his TK to lift Voldemort up and slam him repeatedly into the ground.

Originally posted by Robtard
And you have yet to prove that AV can kill an undead immortal being. Dance now.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What does being immortal have to do with anything ? You have a real problem with making sense. Specific magic works. You already conceded the argument, clown.

Why does being immune to death matter in a fight where your opponent is trying to kill you? 😂 Poor stupid Quanchi.

And Voldermort doesn't have a "specific" spell that can rob Imhotep of his powers thereby making him mortal and open to being killed. Watch The Mummy, I already had to explain to you that Imhotep can turn himself into sand, besides control it via sandstorm. He died after he become mortal. After.

Originally posted by juggerman
Yet Crucio and even AK wouldn't work on Inferi. So as i said you are ignoring the point, and now you're twisting it.

I never said no other magic can hurt him. He's already "dead" so AK wouldn't kill him, and he doesn't feel pain so Curcio wouldn't do spit. Besides AK has alreadly proven to not kill an "immortal" iyo so by your logic it would not kill Imhotep.

Without his powers he is mortal. His soul was never taken

Agreed. But Voldemort does not have the magic needed

Anck Su Namun also was not a cursed mummy sent to destroy the world. She was simply brought back to life.

He can be killed. We see him killed twice. Immortal doesnt mean unkillable. You people seem to have these terms confused.

His soul was taken back to the underworld. We see his bride brought back through soul so she has the same experiences and memories. Same thing here. You've already admitted he has a soul since there's no proof he doesn't anyways.

Oneshot win for Lord Voldemort.

Originally posted by Robtard
Why does being immune to death matter in a fight where your opponent is trying to kill you? 😂 Poor stupid Quanchi.

And Voldermort doesn't have a "specific" spell that can rob Imhotep of his powers thereby making him mortal and open to being killed. Watch The Mummy, I already had to explain to you that Imhotep can turn himself into sand, besides control it via sandstorm. He died after he become mortal. After.

Kills him and takes away his soul or tortures him since specific magic works just dandy on the lovesick Egyptian.

He doesn't kill anyone by turning into sand after at full strength. That's more likely pre at full power. 😂

Get a clue, kiddo.