Originally posted by Cogito
For the life of me I can't understand why the Flashes (Wally/Barry) are so highly regarded on these boards.Against opponents not named Zoom, they rarely contribute much, and equally rarely display HH abilities.
Wally and Barry have to be the overall weakest in reality, not necessarily powerset of any characters mentioned here.
Originally posted by Cogito
For the life of me I can't understand why the Flashes (Wally/Barry) are so highly regarded on these boards.Against opponents not named Zoom, they rarely contribute much, and equally rarely display HH abilities.
Wally and Barry have to be the overall weakest in reality, not necessarily powerset of any characters mentioned here.
Originally posted by Cogito
For the life of me I can't understand why the Flashes (Wally/Barry) are so highly regarded on these boards.Against opponents not named Zoom, they rarely contribute much, and equally rarely display HH abilities.
Wally and Barry have to be the overall weakest in reality, not necessarily powerset of any characters mentioned here.
Look at how well Wally handled Supergirl when he was holding back and she was trying to kill him.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Thunder Gods > Sinestro?Also, can anyone educate me on Orion. Not being a dick, but everyone mentions the Astro Force/Motherbox but all I ever see from him is punching things or shooting from his little scooter.
It wasn't really intended on being in any order outside of the order they popped into my head.
Orion with the Astro Force has wrecked planets and has nearly destroyed Earth without targeting it directly. He also once KO'd a younger Superman without trying too hard.
Lifting/pushing/pulling feats mean jackshit ultimately. They're nice and it helps to quantify exactly how much weight a character can move in a specific instance, but it doesn't equate into said character faring well in combat feats.
Doomsday and Darkseid have very little in the way of lifting/pushing/moving feats, unlike J'onn who's helped a couple of times on that front. And there's no doubt that either one of them would beat the shit out of J'onn.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankbut jonn's shit is all retarded so there is that
Lifting/pushing/pulling feats mean jackshit ultimately. They're nice and it helps to quantify exactly how much weight a character can move in a specific instance, but it doesn't equate into said character faring well in combat feats.Doomsday and Darkseid have very little in the way of lifting/pushing/moving feats, unlike J'onn who's helped a couple of times on that front. And there's no doubt that either one of them would beat the shit out of J'onn.
Originally posted by 753
but jonn's shit is all retarded so there is that
True, but you can take someone far more consistent and overall less prone to jobbing like Wonder Woman, who has plenty of shared lifting feats and still know that in spite of Doomsday or Darkseid not having those feats or even better ones, in a fight, she'd get worked.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Lifting/pushing/pulling feats mean jackshit ultimately. They're nice and it helps to quantify exactly how much weight a character can move in a specific instance, but it doesn't equate into said character faring well in combat feats.Doomsday and Darkseid have very little in the way of lifting/pushing/moving feats, unlike J'onn who's helped a couple of times on that front. And there's no doubt that either one of them would beat the shit out of J'onn.
I agree...I would rank Orion as one of the head honchos but his lifting fts does suck. I wouldn't relly on him to move a mountain if one was about to fall on a city.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankyeah i just wanted to mock him. lifting means shit in comics
True, but you can take someone far more consistent and overall less prone to jobbing like Wonder Woman, who has plenty of shared lifting feats and still know that in spite of Doomsday or Darkseid not having those feats or even better ones, in a fight, she'd get worked.