Galactus' barrier doesn't block his access to cosmic energy, only his surf board.
The most clear example of this is during Surfer's fight with the flying Dutchman, where Surfer summons energy from the, quote: "infinite cosmos" while underneath Galactus' barrier. In fact, the comic literally shows energy building up above Earth.
Originally posted by Dampyre
It was a poor performance by Surfer and a lousy fight. My point is that people act like this is their entire history.
In your opinion anyways.
Originally posted by Dampyre
That's speculation on your part. Asgard is in another dimension so who knows if that's true. Anyway, holding back or not Thor was on the losing end of that battle.
Why would Surfer not be able to absorb ambient cosmic energy in Asgard?
And it makes sense as Surfer notes how he's more powerful then ever, how he feels invincible and that he cannot fail. Although I guess that can be attributed to Loki as he says he's made Surfer far more powerful than even Norrin himself could ever imagine.
Except Surfer notes how Thor was in fact holding back so it is worth mentioning. As well as Surfer noting Mjolnir is superior to his Power Cosmic and Thor has more strength then he could ever possibly know.
Originally posted by Dampyre
Durok lost the fight by KO. Not sure how's he's beyond the Surfer in combat if that's true. At least you ackowledge Surfer cradling Thor in his arms and bringing him back to life.Thor did beat Durok soundly in their next encounter. To counter that we have Surfer taking it to Mrrungo-Mu when Thor was easily defeated in battle and captured.
Like I said, it was a win, just a weird one because time traveling did not knock out Thor, why should it take out Durok who in the same comic was manhandling Surfer like a child? Not sure what the point of that was outside of trying to get a rise out of me? There's an entire arc dedicated to Thor making Surfer his b*tch boy so you know, good luck with that. 🙂
I haven't read that story in years so I can't comment but if the rest of this discussion has been any sort of indication, I doubt it's that simple.
Originally posted by Dampyre
Thor may have been wounded by he certainly wasn't weakend. Thor was able to cause Galactus pain in that fight. A weakend Thor isn't doing that, IMO. Thor also had some sort of armor in that fight as well.I say these two split but only because Norrin fight like a fool against Thor. He also seems to do some jobbing, IMO.
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Thor was wounded and in serious pain and it was only getting worse. His power level in itself may not have been reduced but he was certainly weakened.
The fact that his damage soak is so insane that he can power through it and fight Surfer at the very least as an equal, and even damage Galactus, does not change this.
LOL. Okay then.
Originally posted by One-Punch
Galactus' barrier doesn't block his access to cosmic energy, only his surf board.The most clear example of this is during Surfer's fight with the flying Dutchman, where Surfer summons energy from the, quote: "infinite cosmos" while underneath Galactus' barrier. In fact, the comic literally shows energy building up above Earth.
Then what part did the barrier play?
I remember Surfer referencing his reduced power in regards to the barrier.
Originally posted by One-Punch
The whole point of the barrier was to trap Surfer on Earth. How do you not know this? It was never meant to cut Surfer off from his power.
I understand that. It was Galactus' punishment for betraying him but the barrier was not the cause for his reduced power level while on Earth?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I understand that. It was Galactus' punishment for betraying him but did the barrier not cause his reduced power level while on Earth?
The barrier itself didn't reduce his power. In fact, Surfer was quite powerful when he was initially trapped on Earth. That's why Dr.Doom was so adamant on stealing his power cosmic.
It was the Sonic Shark missile that reduced his power level to a fraction of his original power.
In Silver Surfer Vol 3 #1 it was revealed the only thing the barrier did was block his board. All Surfer had to do to get pass the barrier was just fly past it on a space ship without his board.
Originally posted by One-Punch
The barrier itself didn't reduce his power. In fact, Surfer was quite powerful when he was initially trapped on Earth. That's why Dr.Doom was so adamant on stealing his power cosmic.It was the [b]Sonic Shark
missile that reduced his power level to a fraction of his original power.In Silver Surfer Vol 3 #1 it was revealed the only thing the barrier did was block his board. All Surfer had to do to get pass the barrier was just fly past it on a space ship without his board. [/B]
Okay, I get it. The barrier in itself did not weaken him, but being trapped on Earth did, correct?
Because on Earth he could not replenish his strength from ambient cosmic energy and so on after he was depowered by the Sonic Shark or whatever?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Okay, I get it. The barrier in itself did not weaken him, but being trapped on Earth did, correct?Because on Earth he could not replenish his strength from ambient cosmic energy and so on after he was depowered by the Sonic Shark or whatever?
Originally posted by One-Punch
The barrier doesn't block Surfer's access to cosmic energy. I just posted a scan that states this. Going above the barrier didn't bring Surfer back to his original power.
A scan from the same comic you posted indicates my point:
Surfer could apparently summon cosmic energy based on your claim but his lower power level was apparently due to his inability to access ambient cosmic energy while trapped on earth.
I don't know about Vol. 3 and I doubt it's completely consistent or even acknowledged always but I'm not sure why you're acting as if I'm making this up.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
A scan from the same comic you posted indicates my point:Surfer could apparently summon cosmic energy based on your claim but his lower power level was apparently due to his inability to access ambient cosmic energy while trapped on earth.
I don't know about Vol. 3 and I doubt it's completely consistent or even acknowledged always but I'm not sure why you're acting as if I'm making this up.
Alright let's review.
You claimed that the barrier block's Surfer's access to cosmic energy, but that turned out to be false. Check.
The gist of your claim with that scan is that the ozone blocks some of Surfer's energy, and if Surfer went beyond the Earth's ozone layer he would regain his power, but the barrier traps him underneath it.
Here's the problem. The barrier doesn't trap Surfer under the ozone. In fact, Surfer has traveled far above the ozone dozens of times while trapped under the barrier. See below.
Three examples of Surfer travelling far above Earth's ozone layer while underneath the barrier (SS #2):
Surfer travels far beyond Earth's ozone multiple times in SS#2, yet even after doing this, Surfer still references his de-powerement afterwards:
Travelling beyond Earth's ozone, and even far beyond Earth's thermosphere didn't restore Surfer back to full power as shown in SS#2.
This happened two issues before his fight with Thor too, so there's that.