Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Also Proteus (and this wasnt even Full Power Proteus) beat off an attempted Mindrape from a Phoenix that was in the process of transforming into Classic Dark Phoenix; Thanos aint mindraping him...
And Proteus is mentally unstable, probably even more so than Maker, he has serious "mommy issues". Thanos mindr@ping him right from the get go isn't so far fetched.
Then it's just Thanos vs Onslaught. I still have faith in my boy Thanos. Onslaught was an idiot considering all the "IMPLIED" power he had.
Originally posted by zopzop
Nope my friend. That wasn't the full power PF at all. Just before she faced down with Proteus, Moira ran some tests on her. They discovered that there were psionic circuit breakers in place, self imposed by Jean ever since the M'krann incident, to cut off her power to levels she can manage. She wasn't even herald level.
She didn't break them till she became Dark Phoenix.And Proteus is mentally unstable, probably even more so than Maker, he has serious "mommy issues". Thanos mindr@ping him right from the get go isn't so far fetched.
Then it's just Thanos vs Onslaught. I still have faith in my boy Thanos. Onslaught was an idiot considering all the "IMPLIED" power he had.
Thats not exactly true; Classic Xmen issue 33, page 14, panel 1...
Cyclops mentions that despite the circuit breakers alledgedly working, Jean was getting stronger; she was starting to do things with ease that wasnt always easy for her...
So yeah, she was in the process of turing into Dark Phoenix; she wasnt there yet, but she was going in that direction...
So no, if Proteus (and once again, this isnt even Full Power Proteus) can beat off her attempted Mindrape, then Thanos aint stopping him with a Mindrape either...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thats not exactly true; Classic Xmen issue 33, page 14, panel 1...Cyclops mentions that despite the circuit breakers alledgedly working, Jean was getting stronger; she was starting to do things with ease that wasnt always easy for her...
So yeah, she was in the process of turing into Dark Phoenix; she wasnt there yet, but she was going in that direction...
So no, if Proteus (and once again, this isnt even Full Power Proteus) can beat off her attempted Mindrape, then Thanos aint stopping him with a Mindrape either...
Proteus beat the mindr@ape of a sub herald level Jean. Thanos mindr@ped an insane Cube Being in combat. Big difference.
Originally posted by zopzop
LoM, he said that as she performed the "awesome" feat of lifting 5 X-men and carrying them telekinetically. That may be more than Marvel Girl was capable of, but that's nowhere near even herald level. It's right there on panel. There's a huge difference between Dark Phoenix and the Jean that fought Proteus.Proteus beat the mindr@ape of a sub herald level Jean. Thanos mindr@ped an insane Cube Being in combat. Big difference.
But that wasnt the extent of her power as she was doing that without effort...
The point is that Moira was wrong about the circuit breaker as she was growing in strength; we really dont know how strong she was when she fought Proteus...but we do know she was under going the process of turning into Dark Phoenix.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
But that wasnt the extent of her power as she was doing that without effort...The point is that Moira was wrong about the circuit breaker as she was growing in strength; we really dont know how strong she was when she fought Proteus...but we do know she was under going the process of turning into Dark Phoenix.
The PF that fought Proteus was a crippled Phoenix. Lifting 5 X-men is great for Marvel Girl but not for any herald worth a damn (this is the "feat" that wowed Cyclops. I guess he's easily impressed).
Originally posted by abhilegend
The maker was already mindraped by Oracle who incidently was stomped by regular Jean Grey.
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With that in mind, I think we can put to rest the notion of Thanos defeating Proteus via mindrape...
Even if Thanos mindraping Proteus was a possibility (and it simply isnt), whats to stop Onslaught from psionically shielding Proteus? Nothing at all...
Mindraping isnt working here...