Originally posted by dmills
My man 👆Omni-man
Supreme
Majestic = Icon (imo)No one else matters.
When did Invincibles old man fight Supreme?
I know Supreme fought Gladiator to a standstill..
And I thought Icon was below Superman? Majestic should be at least as strong/fast as the real deal, considering his solar system rearranging feats, and speed feats (Nano second reactions, and traveling something like 13 light years in the time it took to finish a few thought bubbles..)
Originally posted by cdtm
When did Invincibles old man fight Supreme?I know Supreme fought Gladiator to a standstill..
And I thought Icon was below Superman? Majestic should be at least as strong/fast as the real deal, considering his solar system rearranging feats, and speed feats (Nano second reactions, and traveling something like 13 light years in the time it took to finish a few thought bubbles..)
Originally posted by "Id"
Supreme vs Omni-Man
http://imgur.com/3At98
http://imgur.com/A8oxg
http://imgur.com/TqSl3
http://imgur.com/9ATUd
http://imgur.com/3J479
http://imgur.com/fSw2u
http://imgur.com/Jeh1G
http://imgur.com/HUmru
http://imgur.com/XYnn3
Also Lawl @ majestic being equal to superman. So, now you're touting majestic's superiority to superman instead of gladiator?
Originally posted by SevenShackles
Nice list, so majestic over supreme? First time iv seen someone hold him in higher regard than Supreme, usually 'same' or below.
I'm just following KMC's rules of Crossovers being invalid, so I pretty much ignore the Supreme vs. X character crossovers and go by what feats they've performed in their Universe and their relative comparison to other top tiers in their respective Universes.
More of a in story crossover recon, Omni-man was no where to be found in the 90s during all the extreme Liefeld crossovers like sacrifice, destroyer, etc... nor was he apart of Wildstorm before being sold to DC. But according to this recent battle he'd known Supreme since the very beginning, they were old friends. 😕
Reminds me of when Superman crossed over to the Fantastic Four Franklin Richards had long known of Superman and was playing with Superman toy dolls and considered him the greatest hero of all time. Other times Superman crosses over to Marvel they don't have a clue who he is.
Omni-man and Supreme (powerless mjolnir carrying version, daughter possessing son version, Alan Moores, Rob Liefeld's original, alternate dimension etc...), did not really exist on the same Earth until this recent comic Supreme 67.
I remember Invincible #60, a comic that had dozens of image characters show up to stop the Mark invasion of his alternate clones, including some that boasted about killing Omni-Man, and some of them were taken down by Savage Dragon, Pitt, Firebreather, and more. Image actually called this issue a "done-in-one crossover event" and above the title actually say "The Crossover Event of the Decade!"
So even if it is the same company, they do consider those to be crossover events. Now is that valid for KMC I don't know we'd need to have PR or some MOD rule on it.
Personally I judge intercompany crossovers the same way as company crossovers, be it Prime (from Ultraverse) fighting Marvel's Thor 50/50, when Marvel bought Malibu comics, it was still a crossover in my eyes.
Originally posted by Sensui_
More of a in story crossover recon, Omni-man was no where to be found in the 90s during all the extreme Liefeld crossovers like sacrifice, destroyer, etc... nor was he apart of Wildstorm before being sold to DC. But according to this recent battle he'd known Supreme since the very beginning, they were old friends. 😕Reminds me of when Superman crossed over to the Fantastic Four Franklin Richards had long known of Superman and was playing with Superman toy dolls and considered him the greatest hero of all time. Other times Superman crosses over to Marvel they don't have a clue who he is._
Omni-man and Supreme (powerless mjolnir carrying version, daughter possessing son version, Alan Moores, Rob Liefeld's original, alternate dimension etc...), did not really exist on the same Earth until this recent comic Supreme 67._
I remember Invincible #60, a comic that had dozens of image characters show up to stop the Mark invasion of his alternate clones, including some that boasted about killing Omni-Man, and some of them were taken down by Savage Dragon, Pitt, Firebreather, and more. Image actually called this issue a "done-in-one crossover event" and above the title actually say "The Crossover Event of the Decade!"
So even if it is the same company, they do consider those to be crossover events. Now is that valid for KMC I don't know we'd need to have PR or some MOD rule on it._
Personally I judge intercompany crossovers the same way as company crossovers, be it Prime (from Ultraverse) fighting Marvel's Thor 50/50, when Marvel bought Malibu comics, it was still a crossover in my eyes.
Lol yeah Omni-man being injected into the history of Image can feel a little awkward but not as awkward than what happened with the sentry._
If I remember correctly during all that stuff in invincible and the such Supreme wasn't an active earth based character. (could be remembering wrong) and alternate universes are different so even if they stated they killed their Omni-man it doesn't mean much in regard to current Omni-man from the mainstream universe. Also circumstance wasn't given either._
The crossovers are treated as canon in plenty of the other comics such as fire breather, dynamo five, savage dragon (where I believe invincible was introduced) Noble causes and Young blood where it's mentioned of given a nod of events or knowledge/friendship of one another. So it's not like some crossovers where everyone shows up, does stuff then goes home and seemingly forget everything. Characters from the same universe running into each other in canon should be...canon.
The Loki going to Malibu comicverse is sadly also canon but I wish it wasn't despite liking a handful of Malibu characters. The dc/marvel stuff I know isn't.
Originally posted by Eel O'Brien
Several posters sound certain that Plutonian is at or near the top.On what are you guys basing this? I've never actually read Irredeemable but you've piqued my curiosity...
Here is a quick list of Plutonian's Powers and Abilities:
- Matter Manipulation
- Weaponized use of Quantum Entanglement
- Time Travel
- Psychic Abilities
- Ability to Nullify Fundamental Forces of Nature
- Seeing through Objects- Subconsciously, can mentally alter the atomic structure of objects, allowing him to see by viewing parts of the electromagnetic spectrum that only he can perceive.
- Durability- Subconsciously, mentally controls the density of his own skin and muscle.
- Damage- Subconsciously, he reduces the mass of anything or anyone he is striking, for maximum damage. Does the same to objects he is lifting, so enormous objects do not collapse under their own weight.
- Intangibility- Can alter his own density to allow mass to pass through him.
Most of the following quotations concern actions that the Plutonian does Subconsciously.-
- Qubit- "Operates outside the realm of known physics."
- Qubit- "Can redefine reality."
- Qubit- "able to alter quantum mechanics with his brain."
- Modeus- "Changing probability"
- Modeus- "Reversing entropy"
- Modeus- "seeing through time"
- Modeus- Eye Beams "Transfer Kinetic Energy to the air molecules, turning it into superheated gas"
- Modeus- Arctic Breath "can withdraw molecular motion from the air"
- Modeus- Flight "flies by shifting his mass through the atmosphere, telekinetically squeezing through it like soap through a fist"
And, as they have stated in a bunch of different ways, this is just the beginning of Tony's "awakening", learning about the use of his powers.
Modeus had to drain stars to beat Plutonian